DJShahar.com
it is no f'n annoying.
vdj takes allot of time loading database.
for the next vdj update, please set it so vdj loads, and then reads external h.d.d database.
same as, starting up vdj, and then connecting an ext hdd.
thanks,
dj shahar
a.k.a. djkz
vdj takes allot of time loading database.
for the next vdj update, please set it so vdj loads, and then reads external h.d.d database.
same as, starting up vdj, and then connecting an ext hdd.
thanks,
dj shahar
a.k.a. djkz
Posté Sun 18 Jan 09 @ 9:57 pm
SBDJ
That would mean that it would take up CPU power whilst VDJ is running to load the database - potentially causing glitches in the audio if you start trying to use VDJ whilst its doing this - and the information for tracks in that database would be unavailable until it had loaded.
Load on hotplug, yes, but load for a drive thats available on startup? I can't see any logical reason for it. The only time I can see startup being a problem is after a crash, and thats what backup systems are for so you don't have to rush it - can work out what went wrong and get ready to rock again. Startup time at the beginning of the night should really be a non-issue?
That said, my VDJ takes a split second to load my database, but I don't use an external on my laptop.
Load on hotplug, yes, but load for a drive thats available on startup? I can't see any logical reason for it. The only time I can see startup being a problem is after a crash, and thats what backup systems are for so you don't have to rush it - can work out what went wrong and get ready to rock again. Startup time at the beginning of the night should really be a non-issue?
That said, my VDJ takes a split second to load my database, but I don't use an external on my laptop.
Posté Mon 19 Jan 09 @ 12:08 am
discobrian24
I too am confused on this one, my vdj loads in 4 seconds.
Posté Mon 19 Jan 09 @ 1:49 am
cstoll
What I don't understand is why do you need it to load so fast ? Are you waiting until the last possible minute to start your gig before your turn on your computer and try to launch VirtualDJ? Btw, I have 6 different DB files that are all a large size and it doesn't take more than about 15secs to load.
Posté Mon 19 Jan 09 @ 4:22 pm
DJShahar.com
external hdd with over 600GB of music and a database reaching 200MB takes quite some time to read.
virtual dj just not fast enough.
vdj 3.x and 4.x would load w/in seconds. they could scan my entire computer (3 hdd) in less than 10 seconds. what happened?
i know having a database is an upgrade. i know database can hold more info. i know that. but it does all of this at huge expense.
i'll create a video that shows how long it takes vdj to load. stay tuned.
virtual dj just not fast enough.
vdj 3.x and 4.x would load w/in seconds. they could scan my entire computer (3 hdd) in less than 10 seconds. what happened?
i know having a database is an upgrade. i know database can hold more info. i know that. but it does all of this at huge expense.
i'll create a video that shows how long it takes vdj to load. stay tuned.
Posté Fri 23 Jan 09 @ 6:51 pm
SBDJ
OK; so if it took a whole minute to open, whats the problem?
Do you really put yourself in the situation whereby a few seconds loading time make a big difference? If so, show up for work a bit earlier!
Do you really put yourself in the situation whereby a few seconds loading time make a big difference? If so, show up for work a bit earlier!
Posté Fri 23 Jan 09 @ 10:03 pm
djcel
Try the option "fix" because maybe your xml file is not optimised.
Posté Sat 24 Jan 09 @ 4:03 am
DJShahar.com
here's some interesting news.
check, clean, fix, database with the xml being really small: vdj loads w/in seconds.
now all bpm's and lenghts are gone.
analyze bpm for all tracks. oooops, now it takes forever to load yet again.
check, clean, fix, database with the xml being really small: vdj loads w/in seconds.
now all bpm's and lenghts are gone.
analyze bpm for all tracks. oooops, now it takes forever to load yet again.
Posté Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 10:10 am
erxon
djkz wrote :
i'll create a video that shows how long it takes vdj to load. stay tuned.
Isn't that a waste of time and megabytes? You still haven't
mentioned how long does it actually take in any numerical
form.
Posté Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 11:25 am
cstoll
djkz wrote :
external hdd with over 600GB of music and a database reaching 200MB takes quite some time to read.
virtual dj just not fast enough.
vdj 3.x and 4.x would load w/in seconds. they could scan my entire computer (3 hdd) in less than 10 seconds. what happened?
i know having a database is an upgrade. i know database can hold more info. i know that. but it does all of this at huge expense.
i'll create a video that shows how long it takes vdj to load. stay tuned.
virtual dj just not fast enough.
vdj 3.x and 4.x would load w/in seconds. they could scan my entire computer (3 hdd) in less than 10 seconds. what happened?
i know having a database is an upgrade. i know database can hold more info. i know that. but it does all of this at huge expense.
i'll create a video that shows how long it takes vdj to load. stay tuned.
First it's not a 'huge' expense and not a 'huge' time to load --
I have 4 hard drives (1.4TB) over 80k files in audio, over 20k files in Karaoke and close to 10k files of video -- my VirtualDJ only takes about 15 secs (maybe 20) to load once the splash screen says loading.
Now I can exactly tell you the issue of WHY you have a large XML file on that drive and why it takes so long. And it is all the Virtual Folders you have. You have several don't you ? I don't use but 2 Virtual Folders and they are small in what is in there - 1 actually stays empty. I use the multiple Genre capabilities to leverage the Genre tree and I use Filter Folders. Everything else is Favorite Folders - because I have drives organized even further.
So, as erxon asked "how long" is it taking -- the issue is because you don't have a well organized system to best leverage VirtualDJ's features.
Posté Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 12:41 pm
DJShahar.com
i'm open to any and all suggestions in regards to making vdj load faster.
please provide more details for what ever features you are talking about.
thanks,
please provide more details for what ever features you are talking about.
thanks,
Posté Thu 29 Jan 09 @ 11:06 am
DJShahar.com
erxon wrote :
Isn't that a waste of time and megabytes? You still haven't
mentioned how long does it actually take in any numerical
form.
djkz wrote :
i'll create a video that shows how long it takes vdj to load. stay tuned.
Isn't that a waste of time and megabytes? You still haven't
mentioned how long does it actually take in any numerical
form.
for testing purposes, i've deleted my xml file. vdj loaded w/in seconds.
now i've started to analyze the database again. when analyzing is complete, i'll post a video.
analyzing takes time.
sorry.
by the way.. i completely understand how frustrating it is to wait for something a very long time.
;)
Posté Thu 29 Jan 09 @ 11:10 am
cstoll
Why do you delete and re-analyze ? Just rename the files, let the system build new, delete new and rename the originals back.
Posté Thu 29 Jan 09 @ 11:32 am
erxon
You're kidding right?
you are describing a problem, without providing the relevant data
just to make a joke or prove a point that it takes 'too long' for
(to us) still unknown reasons (especially as we don't know whether
it's 15 seconds or 2 weeks), and at the same time want teamers
to resolve this issue?
you are describing a problem, without providing the relevant data
just to make a joke or prove a point that it takes 'too long' for
(to us) still unknown reasons (especially as we don't know whether
it's 15 seconds or 2 weeks), and at the same time want teamers
to resolve this issue?
Posté Thu 29 Jan 09 @ 1:07 pm
SBDJ
I agree; forget the video; it won't tell us anything.
Just give us the times ;)
Just give us the times ;)
Posté Thu 29 Jan 09 @ 2:39 pm
Sonido Alto Voltaje
cstoll wrote :
What I don't understand is why do you need it to load so fast ? Are you waiting until the last possible minute to start your gig before your turn on your computer and try to launch VirtualDJ?
The only time I have ever wished for VDJ to load quicker is right after a crash.
djkz wrote :
it is no f'n annoying.
vdj takes allot of time loading database.
for the next vdj update, please set it so vdj loads, and then reads external h.d.d database.
same as, starting up vdj, and then connecting an ext hdd.
thanks,
dj shahar
a.k.a. djkz
vdj takes allot of time loading database.
for the next vdj update, please set it so vdj loads, and then reads external h.d.d database.
same as, starting up vdj, and then connecting an ext hdd.
thanks,
dj shahar
a.k.a. djkz
But seriously what type of time are you talking about?
Posté Thu 29 Jan 09 @ 5:37 pm
DJShahar.com
as i mentioned before.. "for testing purposes", i've deleted the database.
right now vdj loads w/in seconds.
and i'm letting vdj analyze my entire library while i'm at work everyday.
vdj analyzes my library around 10 hours daily. but analyzing over 100,000 files will take some time.
right now there's 115,750 files remaining to be analyzed.
when it's done. i'll record the time it takes virtual dj post it up. and also post a video so you don't doubt me.
in the mean time.
PLEASE...BE PATIENT.
right now vdj loads w/in seconds.
and i'm letting vdj analyze my entire library while i'm at work everyday.
vdj analyzes my library around 10 hours daily. but analyzing over 100,000 files will take some time.
right now there's 115,750 files remaining to be analyzed.
when it's done. i'll record the time it takes virtual dj post it up. and also post a video so you don't doubt me.
in the mean time.
PLEASE...BE PATIENT.
Posté Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 11:53 am
DJShahar.com
so far, it's at 2 minutes and 15 seconds.
that's an awful lot of time to load the player.
then i tried loading another instance in case the 1st one crashes. now i need to add the entire db all over again. go figure.
and let's not forget about denon's wonderful asio which will not work with 2 instances of virtual dj.
i've created a video, but have not uploaded it. upon request, i will.
that's an awful lot of time to load the player.
then i tried loading another instance in case the 1st one crashes. now i need to add the entire db all over again. go figure.
and let's not forget about denon's wonderful asio which will not work with 2 instances of virtual dj.
i've created a video, but have not uploaded it. upon request, i will.
Posté Sun 15 Feb 09 @ 11:44 am
SBDJ
I think you need to look at a few things in your setup. 2 minutes is a long time to open - but again it shouldn't matter since you open VDJ, work then close? Surely you don't need to reopen once you are running?
Anyway I digress - your problem is not the speed of Virtual DJ - it's the size of your database.
I looked at a drive with 200Gb of media, all of which has been anaylsed in Virtual DJ. The size of that database file is 6Mb. Thats right, 6Mb.
So the big question: Why is yours 200Mb?
Here's a test for you. Open wordpad and load your database file into it (from the file -> open menu option; don't drag and drop). Let us know how long it takes. Bear in mind that wordpad is simply reading the raw data - it is not reading the actual XML. It may appear to freeze whilst loading but stick with it.
Anyway I digress - your problem is not the speed of Virtual DJ - it's the size of your database.
I looked at a drive with 200Gb of media, all of which has been anaylsed in Virtual DJ. The size of that database file is 6Mb. Thats right, 6Mb.
So the big question: Why is yours 200Mb?
Here's a test for you. Open wordpad and load your database file into it (from the file -> open menu option; don't drag and drop). Let us know how long it takes. Bear in mind that wordpad is simply reading the raw data - it is not reading the actual XML. It may appear to freeze whilst loading but stick with it.
Posté Sun 15 Feb 09 @ 1:13 pm
DJShahar.com
6mb, that's ridiculously low.
anytime i "accidently" loose power, i need to restart vdj in order to be able to use it with my denon hc 4500.
still, 2 minutes is short comparing to how long it's going to take me when i finish analyzing my music.
my db is now well over 200,000 songs.
i clicked on check, and fix. it's now 70mb.
i'll keep you posted inre wordpad.
anytime i "accidently" loose power, i need to restart vdj in order to be able to use it with my denon hc 4500.
still, 2 minutes is short comparing to how long it's going to take me when i finish analyzing my music.
my db is now well over 200,000 songs.
i clicked on check, and fix. it's now 70mb.
i'll keep you posted inre wordpad.
Posté Thu 26 Feb 09 @ 6:16 pm
