Rem1x
losing ur cool once in 20 yrs i guess is ok.
but i cant even begin to point out whats wrong with this statement: "If it's not heard on the radio it's not heard in my Club". but to each their own.
but i cant even begin to point out whats wrong with this statement: "If it's not heard on the radio it's not heard in my Club". but to each their own.
Posté Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 11:44 pm
mp3jrick
People want to hear music they recognize for the most part.
It's safer to play what is charting than it is to empty the dance floor by playing obscene or obscure songs that nobody's heard before.
That is what the radio is for imo.
They have a choice then, pick a different station not a different club.
IMHO, people who only play HH probably don't possess the knowledge of music like someone who's 20 years older than 20 and has been doing it all those years.
I used to hate rap and hh, but as time wore on it was the pleasing of the crowd that turned me on and in turn the music.
I'm the only 50+yr old dude running down the highway listening to hh and rap is my bet (well with other tracks also) but you get the point.
With the schools I do, I find (experience) the most rewarding feeling seeing all these kids from all races having such a good time together whether I play classics, rap, latin, hh, rock, pop or soul. And that is the key, I play it all.
I too have had those cycles of kids that are in my face, but if I balance it evenly, after a couple of sets they know enough to leave me alone because their song is probably next.
If someone feels I am a racist because I won't play a particular song because I'm white and they are not, chances are they are more of a racist than I am.
It's safer to play what is charting than it is to empty the dance floor by playing obscene or obscure songs that nobody's heard before.
That is what the radio is for imo.
They have a choice then, pick a different station not a different club.
IMHO, people who only play HH probably don't possess the knowledge of music like someone who's 20 years older than 20 and has been doing it all those years.
I used to hate rap and hh, but as time wore on it was the pleasing of the crowd that turned me on and in turn the music.
I'm the only 50+yr old dude running down the highway listening to hh and rap is my bet (well with other tracks also) but you get the point.
With the schools I do, I find (experience) the most rewarding feeling seeing all these kids from all races having such a good time together whether I play classics, rap, latin, hh, rock, pop or soul. And that is the key, I play it all.
I too have had those cycles of kids that are in my face, but if I balance it evenly, after a couple of sets they know enough to leave me alone because their song is probably next.
If someone feels I am a racist because I won't play a particular song because I'm white and they are not, chances are they are more of a racist than I am.
Posté Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 2:10 am
bagpuss
Great point in that last line.
Posté Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 2:28 am
djpoopypants
I've been at this for a while and I play in a pretty diverse club. Over the course of the night you'll hear 50 Cent, Beck, Bob Sinclar, and Gym Class Heroes. You'll also hear Biggie, Fat Joe, Daft Punk, Rick Ross, Lynyrd Skynrd, Nine Inch Nails, Fergie, and Jim Jones. Why? Because if it's got a beat, I can work with it. We do something that no one else does in this city, and it's a blast for me.
I wrote this one...
Look I'm not an asshole. Really. I'm a dj, but I like taking requests, I do.
Here's a few rules for requesting a song:
- Don't request it more than twice. I'm aware you wanted to hear it the first time you requested it.
- Don't send your friend up requesting the same song you did. I know that you did because you've been hanging out with them all night.
- You want me to play “In Da Club”? Really! In a nightclub? I mean, shit! What a novel idea!
- Get the song title right. I can't count the number of times I’ve had someone ask for 'it's your birthday' - as you kidding? It’s called “In Da Club”, and it's arguably the biggest club hit in the last ten years. One time, a girl asked me for 'small town boy', which was idiot for “Don't Stop Believing”.
- Don't request the song I’m currently playing. Are you kidding me? You’d think that it wouldn't happen, but it happens every night.
- Even though I’ve played a few house songs, don't expect a whole 5 hours of house music. They’ve got clubs for that where you can put on glitter and play with glow sticks (okay, this isn’t exactly the kind of house music I play, but my point stands).
- Don’t sit there and yell things at me because you don’t like the song I play. There’s really nothing I find more disrespectful or annoying than that one guy who stands twenty feet from the DJ booth and tells me that I suck for playing two house songs or two hip-hop songs in a row. It infuriates me.
- If you're a girl and your gut is hanging out and you're attempting to act sexy to get me to play a song for you, don't. It’s not going to work. If I’m an asshole for saying this, fine, but there's no quicker way to get a DJ to not do something for you than to be like that.
- Again, don't ask to hear the same song three times.
- If you request a song and I say 'sure!' enthusiastically, don't expect it to be next. I’ve got a plan for the night, and your request fits in, but not next.
- Don’t call me a liar because I said I played a song that you weren’t here for. The world, and my world especially, doesn’t revolve around you.
- Don't send your server over to tell me your request. I don't care if it's the most popular song in the world, you ain't hearing it all night now. Also, don't piss off my servers.
- Don't give me money to play a song. I’m not a jukebox, for god's sake.
- Be nice to me. I’m a nice guy, but when you act like an idiot, it's not going to make me change my mind. I’m a person too, and ultimately my job is make you happy - but don't expect me to play your song if it sucks and kills my dance floor so that you and your two friends can dance to a song that's an inside joke to you guys.
I wrote this one...
Look I'm not an asshole. Really. I'm a dj, but I like taking requests, I do.
Here's a few rules for requesting a song:
- Don't request it more than twice. I'm aware you wanted to hear it the first time you requested it.
- Don't send your friend up requesting the same song you did. I know that you did because you've been hanging out with them all night.
- You want me to play “In Da Club”? Really! In a nightclub? I mean, shit! What a novel idea!
- Get the song title right. I can't count the number of times I’ve had someone ask for 'it's your birthday' - as you kidding? It’s called “In Da Club”, and it's arguably the biggest club hit in the last ten years. One time, a girl asked me for 'small town boy', which was idiot for “Don't Stop Believing”.
- Don't request the song I’m currently playing. Are you kidding me? You’d think that it wouldn't happen, but it happens every night.
- Even though I’ve played a few house songs, don't expect a whole 5 hours of house music. They’ve got clubs for that where you can put on glitter and play with glow sticks (okay, this isn’t exactly the kind of house music I play, but my point stands).
- Don’t sit there and yell things at me because you don’t like the song I play. There’s really nothing I find more disrespectful or annoying than that one guy who stands twenty feet from the DJ booth and tells me that I suck for playing two house songs or two hip-hop songs in a row. It infuriates me.
- If you're a girl and your gut is hanging out and you're attempting to act sexy to get me to play a song for you, don't. It’s not going to work. If I’m an asshole for saying this, fine, but there's no quicker way to get a DJ to not do something for you than to be like that.
- Again, don't ask to hear the same song three times.
- If you request a song and I say 'sure!' enthusiastically, don't expect it to be next. I’ve got a plan for the night, and your request fits in, but not next.
- Don’t call me a liar because I said I played a song that you weren’t here for. The world, and my world especially, doesn’t revolve around you.
- Don't send your server over to tell me your request. I don't care if it's the most popular song in the world, you ain't hearing it all night now. Also, don't piss off my servers.
- Don't give me money to play a song. I’m not a jukebox, for god's sake.
- Be nice to me. I’m a nice guy, but when you act like an idiot, it's not going to make me change my mind. I’m a person too, and ultimately my job is make you happy - but don't expect me to play your song if it sucks and kills my dance floor so that you and your two friends can dance to a song that's an inside joke to you guys.
Posté Sun 25 Mar 07 @ 12:13 am
KregCZ
I think anyone who called you a racist for that playlist is a racist them-self!
You have a lot of good, new hip hop on that list.
I love hip hop, but not everyone dose.
In my 22 years of club djing I found something to be true about night clubs,
the clubs that play a varity are the ones that last the longest.
Almost every straight hip hop club I ever seen closed with in a year or 2 of it's opening.
You have a lot of good, new hip hop on that list.
I love hip hop, but not everyone dose.
In my 22 years of club djing I found something to be true about night clubs,
the clubs that play a varity are the ones that last the longest.
Almost every straight hip hop club I ever seen closed with in a year or 2 of it's opening.
Posté Sun 25 Mar 07 @ 7:57 am
djvinta
As no one has mentioned this yet, I 'll give away my trick. Get the people's respect by doing a good job. Play requests that fits in right away, wait a little with those who don't fit the current tempo or style.
Give those who requests silly songs a clear straight "No".
If you are good at mixing you can play basically anything. And if you are a good dj you know when this will work and when it won't. Surprise the guest by mixing in the song flawlessly in a few minutes or even seconds after the request. If you are playing with virtual dj you should be able to cue it up in seconds.
Don't take yourself or your job too seriously. Get off your high chair. if you deserve to sit in it your guests will make sure you are sitting comfortably. You are basically telling people to respect you, it won't work.
But the most important tip, a happy smile and joke away those silly requests.
Give those who requests silly songs a clear straight "No".
If you are good at mixing you can play basically anything. And if you are a good dj you know when this will work and when it won't. Surprise the guest by mixing in the song flawlessly in a few minutes or even seconds after the request. If you are playing with virtual dj you should be able to cue it up in seconds.
Don't take yourself or your job too seriously. Get off your high chair. if you deserve to sit in it your guests will make sure you are sitting comfortably. You are basically telling people to respect you, it won't work.
But the most important tip, a happy smile and joke away those silly requests.
Posté Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 2:20 pm
DJ_JAMIN_JIM
Hey I've have had some trouble the past 3 months with my club. People ask my for what i call gansta rap or THUG - music. the funny thing is that 95% of my people are white. and there the people ask for the thug Rap Bar owners come to the dj booth and tells my to change the music to Country of classic rock only thing is Thur Friday Saturday after 11:00 pm know one every ask my for Country or Classic rock the people in thisa club want and ask for the Dance Music so that's what i play the bar People (bartenders) tell the bar owner that it starts fights and stuff but last Saturday night i changed the music to tear in My beer Countrty and we had the biggest fight this year.. so i do't thing it the Music i think it the BEERS AND whiskey and RED BULL!
DJ Jamin Jim
15 years Of DJing
Middletown Ohio
Owner Of Laser Tunes Entertainment
www.myspace.com/DJJIM65
DJ Jamin Jim
15 years Of DJing
Middletown Ohio
Owner Of Laser Tunes Entertainment
www.myspace.com/DJJIM65
Posté Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 3:43 pm
haz0rd
I don't know why Club owners think that people will not fight anyway when they are drunk.
I was told not to ever play one particular song (The Game - One Blood) because it starts fights
The last fight was to a slow love song.... Go Figure,
Taking one the Crowds favorite songs off my playlist will only it a little harder for
me to keep the dance floor full........ Remix time.... Same song Different Beat/Hook.
Have Fun,
I was told not to ever play one particular song (The Game - One Blood) because it starts fights
The last fight was to a slow love song.... Go Figure,
Taking one the Crowds favorite songs off my playlist will only it a little harder for
me to keep the dance floor full........ Remix time.... Same song Different Beat/Hook.
Have Fun,
Posté Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 4:50 pm
djnutz
It all comes down to the owners making the decision on the format of the club. There is not one single person who can call a radio station and demand they change the music they play. The station owners decide what kind of a station they are.
The other issue at hand is attitude. There's an asshole in every group and booze makes it worse, but hip hop has a larger percentage of bad attitudes when compared to other genres.
The other issue at hand is attitude. There's an asshole in every group and booze makes it worse, but hip hop has a larger percentage of bad attitudes when compared to other genres.
Posté Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 7:50 pm
SecretSoul
I've only read the first post in this thread, but I wasn't aware that music was linked to race. History tells us that the majority of all modern music has come from "black music". Disco, Rock & Roll, Soul, Jazz, but that's not too say that it means more to people from a black origin or that they understand it more.
I did once have a guy (who was asain/indian) ask me if I had any black music during a house set. I told him that house music basically came from the blacks and gays who weren't accpeted in the disco clubs in the 80s, thus making it black music. He just looked puzzled and walked off.
I did once have a guy (who was asain/indian) ask me if I had any black music during a house set. I told him that house music basically came from the blacks and gays who weren't accpeted in the disco clubs in the 80s, thus making it black music. He just looked puzzled and walked off.
Posté Tue 27 Mar 07 @ 1:06 am
KregCZ
I have to say that the fights in the clubs tend to be the manager or owner of the clubs fault NOT the music!
For the past 5 years I have worked for a place called the "Black Bear Saloon" (No Country music here) & "The Thirsty Turtle"; Both owned by a company called "Post Road Entertainment" who opened their first place in White Plains NY about 6 years ago. They now own 5 clubs in White Plains (all on the same street), 3 in Stamford CT, 2 in New Haven CT, 1 in Nyack NJ, 1 in South Norwalk CT, and a few others I not sure of the cities.
That's 11 clubs opened in 6 years, and all of them are doing very good!
Why? Because the management knows that you need to hire good DJs that will follow the clubs format,
Good bartenders who know how to do their job, have fun with the crowd, and spot troublemakers.
And one of the most important parts of keeping fights to a minimum is a really good professional security staff! Not just a bunch meatheads that can read an IDs and beat people up, but a TEAM of professionals.
In my club if you try to start a fight you will be picked up by several large men and carried out the door.
No one will hit or hurt you, but you will leave the club and banned for life.
If you try to fight us there are always at least 2 cop cars outside and we'll hand you to them.
After you see how quickly this happens and how fast the troublemaker (no madder how big) is removed from the club, you think twice about starting any trouble yourself.
Some people come in our club thinking they are big and tough and want to start fights, but if our guys see you being rude or having an attitude, you'll be told to leave! That includes friends and family of employees and owners.
Also we don't care how much you spent here; if you are going to disrespect our place, employees or our customers, we don't want you here.
So when your manager tells you that the music starts fights, tell him he needs to get a better security staff!
I wonder is that why there is so much road rage now a days? All those radio programmers are making it dangerous for us to drive the streets. They should ban car radios! Or at least that sounds like what your boss is saying. LOL
Posté Tue 27 Mar 07 @ 5:47 am
haz0rd
Hey KregCZ,
I just moved down to Dallas(Just=2 Years :=) from the Bronx and I have been to the Clubs Mentioned in White Plains Plenty of times! The Turtle was fun place.... Hows that place doing now a days?
Do you still DJ there?
Thanks,
I just moved down to Dallas(Just=2 Years :=) from the Bronx and I have been to the Clubs Mentioned in White Plains Plenty of times! The Turtle was fun place.... Hows that place doing now a days?
Do you still DJ there?
Thanks,
Posté Tue 27 Mar 07 @ 6:17 am
KregCZ
White Plains is OFF THE HOOK! The Turtle is always good,
You should have been there St Pat's Day! It was crazy.
I have friends in Dallas and I'm sure it's kicking out there too.
Have you been to Auston yet?
All the people I know from N.O. have moved there after Katrina
and say the club biz has exploded there
You should have been there St Pat's Day! It was crazy.
I have friends in Dallas and I'm sure it's kicking out there too.
Have you been to Auston yet?
All the people I know from N.O. have moved there after Katrina
and say the club biz has exploded there
Posté Tue 27 Mar 07 @ 10:05 am
haz0rd
I will be in Town This June..
Remember my statement about alcohol and fight..
I think I was wrong there also.
did an even this past weekend.. No Alcohol... Kids... Under 18 Only
3 Fights... Kids are so hostile these days.
Have Fun,
Remember my statement about alcohol and fight..
I think I was wrong there also.
did an even this past weekend.. No Alcohol... Kids... Under 18 Only
3 Fights... Kids are so hostile these days.
Have Fun,
Posté Mon 02 Apr 07 @ 8:09 pm
dj-e-lectric
I specialize in playing clubs that from the start don't want or have had bad experiences with and now don't want the hip hop crowd. I get a kick out of it when a 21 year old prissy white stank ho calls me a racist because I won't play "Mims" or some other good for nothing piece of crap in my 30+ age group club. Personally when someone calls me a racist and says "I'm going to complain to the owner" because I won't play their rap crap I simply say with a smile "Why, yes I am. That's why the owner hired me and if you don't come back because you and your not smarter than a fifth grader friends never come back I am doing my job, so please, do complain to the owner IMMEDIATLY so he can see how well I am doing"!
They usually don't have a response for that one................
They usually don't have a response for that one................
Posté Mon 09 Apr 07 @ 8:34 am
Dj Tolentino
- You want me to play “In Da Club”? Really! In a nightclub? I mean, shit! What a novel idea!
U'r damn right! I hate that guy! I mean he's not even worth 50cent... =\ that is no "hip-hop" music! It's dum as an awsome beat on the background and a shitty dude singing YO YO YO! It's HORRIBLE! How can anyone like that?... And then everyone sings it! Maaan how come?...
Here in Portugal we have some great humourous program that composed a song with the "Inda Club" rythm but with a country-side lyrics! xD AHAHAH And REAL rappers, the Underground ones, always mock with these "Easy-fortune-singers".
Everyone believes to have LOADS AN LOADS of musical culture and after all... WHO ARE THE DJ's?!?!? =\ WE ARE! We put the croud jumping... So to those who don't apreciate what we do, please LEAVE! Cuz there are some ppl on the door waiting to get in!!! "-_-
I have said!!!
Our society is getting weirder and weirder =\
Keep on scrathing global Disc Jokers! \m/
Dj Tolentino
U'r damn right! I hate that guy! I mean he's not even worth 50cent... =\ that is no "hip-hop" music! It's dum as an awsome beat on the background and a shitty dude singing YO YO YO! It's HORRIBLE! How can anyone like that?... And then everyone sings it! Maaan how come?...
Here in Portugal we have some great humourous program that composed a song with the "Inda Club" rythm but with a country-side lyrics! xD AHAHAH And REAL rappers, the Underground ones, always mock with these "Easy-fortune-singers".
Everyone believes to have LOADS AN LOADS of musical culture and after all... WHO ARE THE DJ's?!?!? =\ WE ARE! We put the croud jumping... So to those who don't apreciate what we do, please LEAVE! Cuz there are some ppl on the door waiting to get in!!! "-_-
I have said!!!
Our society is getting weirder and weirder =\
Keep on scrathing global Disc Jokers! \m/
Dj Tolentino
Posté Mon 09 Apr 07 @ 1:20 pm
bryantpb
Does anyone know what He's talking about?
Posté Mon 09 Apr 07 @ 4:13 pm
haz0rd
Hmmmmm I don't think he likes 50 Cent(the Rapper)
and he likes underground rappers that makes fun of mainstream rappers.
unfortunetly the Club crowd likes mainstream rappers
the only way to change that is to change what the radio plays.
it's sad but people have a mob mentality.
I play the mainstream songs alot (I know kill me). Depending on the club your in
it's what you need to do.
and he likes underground rappers that makes fun of mainstream rappers.
unfortunetly the Club crowd likes mainstream rappers
the only way to change that is to change what the radio plays.
it's sad but people have a mob mentality.
I play the mainstream songs alot (I know kill me). Depending on the club your in
it's what you need to do.
Posté Mon 09 Apr 07 @ 4:51 pm
Dj Tolentino
Haz0rd, u r completely right... I mean he has easy access to Hall of Fame and that pisses me of... Sorry 'bout the vocabulary!
Anyway understanding the croud and the ppl u have in front of u in a disco is a hard thing to do. That's why this topic is here, right? Cuz someone that doesn't understand a thing about music called "racist" to a DJ... Just because of all the pop radio crap! Baah... Even if we are loved (as DJs), sometimes we are also hated, ain't it? =S Life's like that...
Anyway understanding the croud and the ppl u have in front of u in a disco is a hard thing to do. That's why this topic is here, right? Cuz someone that doesn't understand a thing about music called "racist" to a DJ... Just because of all the pop radio crap! Baah... Even if we are loved (as DJs), sometimes we are also hated, ain't it? =S Life's like that...
Posté Mon 09 Apr 07 @ 5:01 pm
Tear Em 'Up
Man, am I sorry I missed out on this thread when it was hot a month ago. I have worked at at least two clubs that decided to change over the crowd by playing a completely diffenrt kind of music then had been played in the past. Then it was managements decision, not mine. And it was U-G-L-Y!!!!!
He mentioned in the post to start this thread that he told a customer that "Managment" decided no requests tonight. This is wrong if the Manager did'nt say so. But the customer was way rude....big shock a rude drunk! Never, ever, let an idiot get under you skin! If you do, they are already winning. Never put words in a managers mouth, not going to turn out well for you if you do. If there is a problem again the manager is going to remember this instance and pull the trigger on your replacement in a quick-fire hurry. Keep an even keel, remain proffesional, and never argue with a drunk.
Just my opinion but, if we stop taking requests we can be replaced with an Ipod and all start looking for a new way of life.
He mentioned in the post to start this thread that he told a customer that "Managment" decided no requests tonight. This is wrong if the Manager did'nt say so. But the customer was way rude....big shock a rude drunk! Never, ever, let an idiot get under you skin! If you do, they are already winning. Never put words in a managers mouth, not going to turn out well for you if you do. If there is a problem again the manager is going to remember this instance and pull the trigger on your replacement in a quick-fire hurry. Keep an even keel, remain proffesional, and never argue with a drunk.
Just my opinion but, if we stop taking requests we can be replaced with an Ipod and all start looking for a new way of life.
Posté Mon 09 Apr 07 @ 7:04 pm
