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Both these programs are great, both with pros and cons. Serato with more cans than VDJ I think we could all say, such as soundcards and what not. But what about the Wave Bars. Is there anyway, VDJ could make this a lil clearer than just a red bar and blue bar over lapping each other. I won't lie to anyone it's tricky to scratch that way. It seems that I'm getting more movement then I should from my controller compared to when I scratch with Serato. But that's just one lil thing I wanted to throw out there. I guess some good things I like about the VDJ program as I've been a long time user is the simplicity. You add a song to your harddrive or something and bam its there in serato you have to go through an act of congress to add and take out songs lol. We all can't forget the samples and effects that are endless it's just great and thanks for having an awesome program, But maybe yall could possibly work on the wave bars? just my own opinion.

Thanks,
Mike
 
Posté Tue 05 May 09 @ 11:14 am
They don't have to overlap; it's up to skin designers to set the position, overlap and scale of the them.
 
I understand that, just you don't really have any identification, I mean I scratch straight vinyl and what not, and I'm good at it. I just think if someone would transfer some features from here to there it would make a totally new level of VDJ. I'm not sure if using seratos wave design with color orientation would be copyright infringment or not but who knows lol
 
Speaking for myself, I like the way VDJ has the wave set up better than ssl. I like the simplicity of it. Overlaping wave ensures you can SEE that you are beatmatched and that you are sync'ed. All the colors on ssl are annoying to me.

With VDJ, I have done shows where I had no monitor, no headphones and a LARGE delay from being in a large room and never missed or train wrecked because I did not have to depend on my ears alone. I was able to SEE that my mix was on point a lot easier than I am able to SEE with ssl.

My opinion.
 
Spot-on djcity. I totally agree, I have both Serato & VDJ. Many of my gigs are outdoors and I'll get a bounce-back echo and it's hard to beat match properly by ear with that annoyance and VDJ's wave bar display is far easier to read than that of Serato in this scenario.

DJ RuDe
 
djcity wrote :

With VDJ, I have done shows where I had no monitor, no headphones and a LARGE delay from being in a large room and never missed or train wrecked because I did not have to depend on my ears alone.


Really ?? is this good for you ???
For me it's so boring to do this (and I feel like a cheater )
 
That's not the point I was tryin to get at, but it makes sense. I just have a harder time scratching on vdj and I just feel that it's from the wave lengths. But like I said it's all got it's pro's and con's
 
The new gig I'm working at the guys use serato.

I gotta admit the side by side multi-coloured waveforms are difficult to use.
 
I have both too, I prefer serato waveforms. Much more detail in serato's waveform. Plus once you play a few tracks in serato and you figure out what each color represents you'll appreciate it more. I bet if colored waveforms are introduced in vdj 6, the community would like it...


 
@ michael50411 Your scratching has nothing to do with the wave form. The wave form is just to monitor the music. Adding cue points or beat matching. listening to the song and knowing when to do The hand motion is what makes the difference.
 
DJ Marcel_1 wrote :
The new gig I'm working at the guys use serato.

I gotta admit the side by side multi-coloured waveforms are difficult to use.


Like everything new, you just have to get used to it. Once you do, you'll realize the ScratchLive waveforms are much more detailed cause each color symbolizes something.
 
This is Virtualdj forum and not Serato. This topic needs to be closed. Moderators where are you?
 
djfilosoff wrote :
This is Virtualdj forum and not Serato. This topic needs to be closed. Moderators where are you?


This is the General Discussion Forum. You can speak about "anything" that has do with Dj'ing.
 
Caliente123 wrote :
@ michael50411 Your scratching has nothing to do with the wave form..


Ain't it the truth.
 
Scratching/Mixing...how did you survive before computers? I worked in clubs during the 80's that had terrible echos and you dealt with it. The good DJs survived and the bad ones left.
 
Now with laptops, Many want to become dj's. Back in my times, it was more of a challenge with Vinyl. You had to play good to be good. After so many years of dj ying, My passion is still strong.
 
I know it's not about the waveforms, but it seems like I get a better scratch out of serato, that could also be because of my controller also, I'm using a numark icdx that I'm running usb, as where in serato I use acual vinyl.

But instead of switching wave forms to be more like serato, what if they offered 2 versions. One with new waves and one with old waves. As I was looking through some other programs online, i realized that all the waves were based off the same thing. It was just one color over another, for example in m.audio's program i think it's orange and green. in tracktor its like beige or somethin. But it has become a pretty interesting discussion and I appreciate everyones input on the matter. If it wasn't for the forums the companies wouldn't know how to make there product better. Such as if this was a serato forum I'd tell them to fix the loading area for songs, make it more user friendly were it's not so much of a database you build, but like vdj you plug in and everything you added or took away is there. that's just one thing I'd tell em' lol. Maybe someone will come up with a crazy forum again.
 

Feedbacks from users, is most welcome.. and we always care about what users wish for and wants;)
 
michael50411 wrote :
But what about the Wave Bars. Is there anyway, VDJ could make this a lil clearer than just a red bar and blue bar over lapping each other. I won't lie to anyone it's tricky to scratch that way. It seems that I'm getting more movement then I should from my controller compared to when I scratch with Serato. But maybe yall could possibly work on the wave bars? just my own opinion.

Thanks,
Mike


in skins download.....download turntablist3_3 it splits the waves up......yeah i was the same found it very hard to scratch that way....this skin is very friendly to scrstch dj's
 
overlapping or not isn't an issue... vdj can do both. however the color waveforms in serato are incredible. I used to be a proponent of VDJ waveforms until I was forced to use serato at a number of shows... and after just a couple gigs I fell in love with those waveforms. they carry so much more information and enable you to actually see a high frequency or clap which would have been nothing in a VDJ waveform

VDJ- if you can bring in serato styled colored waveforms the world would be great!
 
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