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How many of you have encountered a customer or attendee at one of your gigs who walk up to your booth and hand you a blank CD or a thumb drive and says "here, can you fill this up with as much music as you can fit on it?" I've been getting this at almost every gig lately and from others that know I'm a DJ.

Not only that, my 17 year old daughter's biology teacher (who's an aspiring weekend warrior DJ) sends her home with a 32 gig thumb-drive and tells her "get your Dad to fill it with the best and latest dance trax out!"

When I laughed at her and told her that "you AND him are crazy, no way", she told me she doesn't want to tell him "no" because she is expecting an "A" in that class!! WTF!!??


People are awfully presumptuous!! I pay for my music, so can they!!


DJ RuDe


Keep Spinnin'!! (tracks that are bought, paid for and played only by me!!)
 
Posté Thu 05 Nov 09 @ 2:38 am
wow... that is ballsy... especially the teacher doing it and bribing grades for it.


I have had similar situations through the years.
 
I don't think he's bribing for grades, I think my daughter just may be assuming that. But then again, this is the guy who is asking a kid to have her father give him literally hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of music... and we've never even met!!! Not that I would do it even if he was my best friend!! But wow! Very ballsy! lol
 
Well go talk to him!!
 
I don't mind sharing certain tracks between my friends if they are reciprocal, however I have been asked several times to give away a copy of my entire collection which has taken me since 1983 to build and has cost god knows how much. I wonder if the person asking would give away their car as the value wouldn't be too different. No chance!
 
I am doing the school's Homecoming dance this weekend, this teacher is going to be a chaperon so I will be talking to him!

Radcliffe, it's funny that you say that, because 1983 is just about when I first started buying music and I still have my original cassettes! I began my collection in 1983 too! I have spent literally a fortune on music since then, so no, I won't be giving it away.

I have shared the occasional song here and there with colleagues, we do that for each other. It's usually me though that does the giving in that sense because buying the newest music has always been a passion of mine, so I never really need anything from my colleagues cause I'll already own it. The trade is usually a referral or an overflow gig, that's the reciprocation. Fair enough!


DJ RuDe
 
Music's deemed as free now, people just expect it handed to them.

A lot more weekend warriors out there with there laptops since Limewire etc

A good idea would be to copy some videos off you tube about music theft onto there usb sticks.
 
I get the same type of thing all the time. Mostly i get asked "have you got xxx new album" if i have then they simply demand "do me a copy then" or if I dont have it they tell me ive got to get it because its the best ever, then i should do them a copy.
This is always met with a "very polite?" NO
i even had a guy who used to come with me to gigs to learn the trade, sort of an apprentice. When he was ready to start DJing for us he bought a hard drive for £40 and expected me to give him every bit if music, videos & karaoke I own, all for free! I told him there was no chance and he said i should do it because he shouldnt have to payfor music that hes going to play for other people that he doesnt want himself! In the end i did him 5 cds with 10 tracks on each, a cd each of 80's 90's cheesy pop, motown and rock. I know i shouldnt have done it but i was sick of him moaning he didnt have music for weddings, 60th birthdays etc. I gave him the cds and told him in no uncertain terms to make the most of them as its all he would ever get off me!
 
Yeah, 1983 was a long time ago ..... I never had casettes as they were generally rotten quality, I started off with 12" singles and I have thousands of them before I started on CD's in 1987. The other thing worth mentioning was the vast time it took to rip vinyl to CD and PC, and then ripping CD's to MP3's then tagging them. It took me literally months to get everything properly tagged and filed. It's amazing how many DJ's have poor databases, tracks not tagged properly and multiple copies of the same song. My database is perfectly maintained for my use. It is a lot of work to get it that way! Another thing worth mentioning is that a good lot of my DJ money went straight back in to buying records and CD's. Too many people now want to DJ with cheap gear and pay nothing for the music. Sad.
 
Yep, get those requests also. One guy I know well told me (a few times!) about this system he's got that he can't setup (all I know about it is that it's hard-drive based) and he hasn't a clue how to get his music onto it. I offered to go to his home to help set it up. He suggested that he bring it to my house and while I'm at it I can "load all my music onto it". I told him all my music is on the laptop and it's in an encrypted format and there's no way for me to copy it. He didn't know any better! Needless to say, he never called with his system.

I use the same line now for all such requests. Figure this is better than telling them to "F**k off!".
 
i get it all the time, and the worst ones are the so-called friends or co-workers. i flat out tell them "no. next question?"

of course the other half at home is a different story. my couch is comfortable.. but not that comfortable and it doesnt "snuggle".
 
Sounds like calling the school and making a big stink would be the best/easiest way to get that A!
 
If these people stick at it for long enough though it actually pay's off for them I've seen it a few times when they've come away with fifty gig or so for nothing.

I once tried to train a guy to be a DJ it ended up costing me a fortune in CD's, damaged equipment and fuel running him about and that's why I only employ pros now. I also look for people that have made a good investment in there gear and transport so that there not fly by nights or people that just want a free ride from little investment.
 
For me it's not just the money aspect but mostly the time I've spent ripping, organizing and tagging all my mp3s. If someone thinks I'm just going to hand over many years of work they have another think coming. It's like me going to a law professor and saying "can you give me a law degree". I'm very stingy with my music collection. I only give stuff to fellow DJs and the only thing I'll give them is like a buzzer sound effect or something that would be a pain in the ass to find.

On a side note, I hate when someone asks me to make them a mixed CD. I guess they don't realize that for me to record a mixed CD I have to spend an hour+ performing the set, then I have to separate the tracks, join them all together so there's no gaps, and then print out a jewel case with all the track names. I tell them it's $100.00 and as you can imagine they just tell me to forget about it.

The last pet peeve I have is when someone gives me a list of songs they want burned to a CD. I ask them "Do you have a computer with a CD burner and an internet connection? Then do it yourself!".
 
Charlie Wilson wrote :
If these people stick at it for long enough though it actually pay's off for them I've seen it a few times when they've come away with fifty gig or so for nothing.

I once tried to train a guy to be a DJ it ended up costing me a fortune in CD's, damaged equipment and fuel running him about and that's why I only employ pros now. I also look for people that have made a good investment in there gear and transport so that there not fly by nights or people that just want a free ride from little investment.



Speaking of DJs having their own gear. You wouldn't believe how many so-called professional DJs don't own their own gear. I work for a DJ / Audio-Visual company and you wouldn't believe how often we get calls from DJs or event planners that need us to provide them with everything; speakers, lights, CDJs, a mixer. I usually ask event planners "why are you hiring a DJ who doesn't own a single piece of equipment? Why aren't you hiring us?!".
 
discobrian24 wrote :
Well go talk to him!!


I'm with Brian here. I would make a trip to the school, and ask for a meeting with him, and his administrator. In said meeting I would mention it is illegal to share music like this. I would then go on to state I am disappointed that I, in this case Paul you, work so hard at home to teach right from wrong. And, at school the teachers are teaching them to circumvent the laws most of the country live with.

I get asked all the time to share music. My response is usually variants of, "sure let me come to your business and raid the supply warehouse first".
 
Here's one idea for a laugh...

Sure fill up his USB drive with tunes, but encoded at 64Kbps, with no tag information and named track01.mp3, track02.mp3...

Cheers,

Roy
 
Or put vdj cache files on that they cant use
 
Yeah I've heard that before, the superstar DJ that doesn't even have his own gear! ringing round at the last minute trying to gather enough stuff to get by with.

Another thing on a different note slightly, i was at a venue once setting up and the venue manager was showing some potential customers/bride and groom around when I heard a him say we can't really afford a pro Dj but we can hire a PA for £250 and plug our ipod into it! we'll probable do that. I'd of done it for £280, very strange some peoples perceptions.
 
kradcliffe wrote :
Yeah, 1983 was a long time ago ..... I never had casettes as they were generally rotten quality, I started off with 12" singles and I have thousands of them before I started on CD's in 1987. The other thing worth mentioning was the vast time it took to rip vinyl to CD and PC, and then ripping CD's to MP3's then tagging them. It took me literally months to get everything properly tagged and filed. It's amazing how many DJ's have poor databases, tracks not tagged properly and multiple copies of the same song. My database is perfectly maintained for my use. It is a lot of work to get it that way! Another thing worth mentioning is that a good lot of my DJ money went straight back in to buying records and CD's. Too many people now want to DJ with cheap gear and pay nothing for the music. Sad.


I agree that cassettes weren't the best quality but I used them for portability. I would've mentioned my vinyl but I sold all of that back in '96 for $600!! I had every 12" single imaginable, from 1984 on, when I first started DJing. I would make mix tape to listen to in the car or on the old Sony Walkman or Ghetto Blaster!!

When I was in Europe during my Army stint, I picked up some really rare 12" versions that we could have never found here in the U.S. Even from American bands!! I sold my vinyl because I was going through some rough times in '96 after my divorce. I found out later that some of my 12" singles were worth that much by themselves. I was still DJing back then but I had already switched to CD in '92 and it took a couple, three years to ween myself away from vinyl.

It took me about 6 months to rip almost my entire CD collection (2000+ CDs) to FLAC & MP3 and I'm still not actually finished, so I'm definitely not giving my music away, that was my sweat and my $$.

So yes, my collection ranges nearly 30 years!! wow!


DJ RuDe


Keep Spinnin' (Another 30 years!!)
 
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