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I been dabbleing mixing video, but I need some type of midi control for the video crossfader cause using the mouse is driving me crazy! lol I currently have a djm-400 and two cdj-400's so any ideas as to what you guys are using and what is working great for you guys would be greatly appreciated. As always thank you for taking the time to read this. PEACE!
 
Posté Sun 15 Nov 09 @ 11:02 am
Wow no one has any advice?
 
I have a similar setup and I use the numark total control. You are going to have to do some mapping but in the end it works out really well. I changed the crossfader mapper on the Total Control to only crossfade the video. The way I have my mixer setup is that channel 1 controls the audio for the left deck and channel 2 controls the audio for the right deck. I use the total control pretty much only to load the videos and to crossfade. When I mix the videos I have to use both crossfaders, the one on my mixer and the one on the total control. Its a little awkward at first but you get used it. The crossfader on your mixer now mixes the audio and the crossfader on your controller mixes the video. You can do some kool effects with it because you can mix the video halfway and mix the audio completely which gives you some room for some mashup transitions especially when using the double window transition. Good luck man, this is the best I could come up with for now.
 
You can also assign a key on your keyboard to automatically transition the videos whenever your ready to make your mix. The only bad part about using the automatic function is you really cant do much with it, you can slow it down and speed it up in the config menu but you can't pause the transition halfway or fade the videos back and forth if your doing some kind of mash-up.
 
You have several options:

* Keyboard shortcut
* Use a small MIDI controller like the Korg Nano to control extra functions
* Replace the DJM with a MIDI capable mixer
* Replace the DJM with a MIDI controller (or use it alongside the DJM)

It all comes down to what you actually want and need, along with your budget.
 
DJRyan0924 wrote :
I have a similar setup and I use the numark total control. You are going to have to do some mapping but in the end it works out really well. I changed the crossfader mapper on the Total Control to only crossfade the video. The way I have my mixer setup is that channel 1 controls the audio for the left deck and channel 2 controls the audio for the right deck. I use the total control pretty much only to load the videos and to crossfade. When I mix the videos I have to use both crossfaders, the one on my mixer and the one on the total control. Its a little awkward at first but you get used it. The crossfader on your mixer now mixes the audio and the crossfader on your controller mixes the video. You can do some kool effects with it because you can mix the video halfway and mix the audio completely which gives you some room for some mashup transitions especially when using the double window transition. Good luck man, this is the best I could come up with for now.


This is what I am about to experiment with - but in my case it will be using my RMX crossfader for video and my Q-SD mixer for audio.

Thanks Ryan, I now know this is possible. Hopefully I'll be adding video to my set on Thursday...

Roy
 
There is nothing that compares to the SCS3M as a video mixer.
It runs off usb, has buttons on it for cues, kills, fx activate, & it's small, cosst a heck of a lot less the an A&H, can be connected while running your programs.
 
Roy, Its a little awkward at first using two crossfaders but it allows you to do some kool transitions and since your splitting the audio between 2 channels you can still cue up the deck thats next on your play list.
 
DJRyan0924 wrote :
Roy, Its a little awkward at first using two crossfaders but it allows you to do some kool transitions and since your splitting the audio between 2 channels you can still cue up the deck thats next on your play list.


I can imagine... But a lot of my mixes start witht eh crossfader in the middle so the audio kicks in "on beat". Tried that witht he single crossfader approach and having the transition at 50% with one paused just looked bad...

Also if you use loops to extend the intro, this would also look a bit naff...

The fact I can bring the video in, when I want to seems to be the only way to go so will have to get used to it ;-)

Cheers,

Roy
 
Drimachus wrote :
There is nothing that compares to the SCS3M as a video mixer.
It runs off usb, has buttons on it for cues, kills, fx activate, & it's small, cosst a heck of a lot less the an A&H, can be connected while running your programs.


The SCS3M is a controller, so is not even comparable to a traditional mixer. Trying to compare it to mixers like the Xone:4D is futile, because the two are for entirely different markets and user types. Not to mention the huge difference in controls and features.
 
Nope, you're wrong. It's a mixer, and a very good one too.
I'm not saying I understood it at first either. I didn't. I'm still get used to it now. The 3m looks different, the user operates it in a slightly different manner, but it will do everything required of a mixer. It does it with precision, too.
Do you like having view meters on your mixer. Most people do. That's what using a 3m is like. VIEW meters everywhere! Volume, FX, pitch, everything. Those sliders don't just run the controls, they give feedback.
And..there are some ways of mixing that NO other mixer can do. I'm talking about stuff using the touch sens CF. Like CFing from right to left, right to left, right to left, very rapidly, nevr hearin the sound traverse form left to right. Yes, you could do something similar using the volume fader, but not as fast(and not exactly the same sound, because you would be lowering the volume)
Don't knock it til ya try it.
 
Drimachus wrote :
Nope, you're wrong. It's a mixer, and a very good one too.


I disagree completely; it's a USB MIDI device. In my book that makes it a controller, just like the Xponent etc. It does no handling of audio and from the blurb it can't be used without a computer. In fact, their own blurb says Meet the SCS.3m, the latest innovation in Stanton's award winning SC System® MIDI controller line.. Where do I plug my turntables into this mixer? What about my microphone? What do I do if my PC crashes?

Drimachus wrote :
I'm not saying I understood it at first either. I didn't. I'm still get used to it now. The 3m looks different, the user operates it in a slightly different manner, but it will do everything required of a mixer. It does it with precision, too.
Do you like having view meters on your mixer. Most people do. That's what using a 3m is like. VIEW meters everywhere! Volume, FX, pitch, everything. Those sliders don't just run the controls, they give feedback.


I can see by looking at my mixer and controller the exact position of every control. My mixer has an LCD display that shows the exact FX configuration and status. My EVO5 also has far more features overall, so when you say nothing compares - you are wrong IMHO. It might cost more, but that's because it's a well built audio+MIDI mixer.

Drimachus wrote :
And..there are some ways of mixing that NO other mixer can do. I'm talking about stuff using the touch sens CF. Like CFing from right to left, right to left, right to left, very rapidly, nevr hearin the sound traverse form left to right. Yes, you could do something similar using the volume fader, but not as fast(and not exactly the same sound, because you would be lowering the volume)
Don't knock it til ya try it.


It's a MIDI device, issuing MIDI commands. I can utilise buttons on my EVO5 to transform the crossfader instantly with no middle ground. What you are talking about is fairly routine for MIDI devices.
 
Awesome bits of info thanks guys. Any one have any experience using the ddm4000 or the djm-700 and 800....? I think I'd feel more comfortable using a tradition style mixer with midi I don't know just my style I guess. But those a the three that I've been looking at so far but would love to know from people that have actually used them for some feedback before I go and spend money..
 
The DJM-700 and 800 are good solid Pioneer mixers. They lack extra MIDI controls, but it's a standard format Pioneer mixer so you know exactly what you are getting. They should last a good while, my old DJM-600 works perfectly still.

The DDM4000, well, it has mixed reviews. Some rave about it, some have had issues with them. One thing to bear in mind is that I believe the crossfader can't do MIDI and Audio at the same time which seems a bit silly.

One thing to note is that with all three of those mixers you will need a MIDI interface (a cheap USB-MIDI will do fine), and a suitable soundcard too.
 
Would I need a sound card even if I was using in conjuction with the cdj-400's?
 
CDJ-400's have a built in soundcard don't they? In that case you'd just need the MIDI adapter.
 
Yes they do have a sound card built in... Nice so I think I'm just gonna go with the djm-700 then since its only $999.99 or mayb I can find it cheaper :). Awesome thanks guys you've been very helpfull. Peace!
 


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