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I'm thinking of becoming a mobile DJ now.

I already have asked my mate who calls him self a 'DJ' (Who only fades from one song to the other) if i can have a hour or so when his next DJing, i want to see how the crowd responds. It will be at a pub, adults around 18 - 30 although mainly young, drunken people.

I have NO lights or anything. So i said, i'll take a laptop, a portable hard drive and my RMX, then plug into his speakers (A quick 2 second stop of music (Drinks time)

I was wondering if anyone just supply's music and that's it. The venue supply's lights + stands (+ Possibly Speakers)

I was wondering if this would be a good way to start up? Its not costing me anything (But £300 fro Rmx + VDJ Pro + a external hard drive) But i could easily make my money back by charging £50 a night (As i'd be basic and not supply lights) then after a few sessions i'll have some money to buy lights and progress. (Along with controller)

Would this be a good idea? I think having a hour or 2 live, with people who i don't know will be good practice. Under pressure and you know what drunken people are like, VERY moody if they don't like something.
 
Posté Tue 08 Dec 09 @ 3:43 pm
I use Napster, I pay £15 a month which is their napster to go service. It enables you to download as many MP3's as you like and place them on an external device, i.e. an Ipod, external drive. They are DRM protected and the license will run out after 30 days. But it will give you all the music you require for your gig, and you will probably end up keeping your subscription going with them
 
So, what are you actually offering the pub? Experience? Do you have any skills at all? Do you have any knowledge of what it takes to move a crowd? Do you have enough of the appropriate music? Or, are you a novice that wants to start out in front of a drunken crowd, and see how you do? If you were a club owner, would you hire you?
 
I recomend zipdj.com Its not a bad price, but trust me you will always have whats hot.
 
A Man and His Music wrote :
So, what are you actually offering the pub? Experience? Do you have any skills at all? Do you have any knowledge of what it takes to move a crowd? Do you have enough of the appropriate music? Or, are you a novice that wants to start out in front of a drunken crowd, and see how you do? If you were a club owner, would you hire you?


I'm not actually offering the pub anything.

The way it goes is, my friend always drinks there, he has played a few sets there for a few ££ and a few drinks. All he dose is sit there, drunk out of his face and cross fade on song to another. He doesn't even attempt to beat match (When i asked him if he dose his answer was "What's That?" So if he can do it, i can do it.

I have no knowledge at all. I said what I'd do is sit with him and see what music he plays for the first couple of hours, then i'll come and play (As i like to play and mix music at around 120BPM, so around that time the crowd may be a bit more buzzing)

I'm aware i'll have to play some oldie tunes, and a huge array of genres, but i feel comfortable i have got enough music in my library for a hours or 2 music. (I've spent £££££ on music in the last few weeks)

Yes, i am a novice. I mainly play around in my room (ON VDJ THAT IS) but the odd time i've had a free house, and had a house party i've been mixing. (On the old Mk1 Hercules Console)

I'm not sure if the pub would hire me, perhaps? but i don't think there too bothered who they get to play in all honestly. As a pub in the UK is a 'Public House'. Its where you go to have a social drink of beer, with your friends (then get drunk), very much different from a Bar. All i want out of it is satisfaction from both me and the crowd and i want to start some where, so why not start in the deep end?

I can Mix, although once i get a mental thought of how i want to mix, it says with me all through the night and i can't change my mixing style, though listening to VDJ radio will help me understand better mixes.
 
@A Man and His Music, Sorry, the question was not about SHOULD he do it, it was about the music. We should be supporting people here, not questioning whether somewhere will hire them. He is a Pro user, so has obviously spent a little time using the software.

Do you remember the first time you had a chance to go out and do a gig. If you had asked the same question and got the response you gave, would that give you confidence, how would you feel?

Sorry about this post, but let us support people here, we are a community, it should not matter what experience people are.
 
kukee, think you misunderstood amahm response there, actually by those questions he was trying to find the best way in which to help danny, but i think that will get pointed out anyway... lol

anyways, you have kicked off in the right way danny by purchasing your copy and making sure it is not full of muck that will inevitably dump on you in a gig, the other point no lights etc is generally called a "walk in".

most pub managers when tell you what type of music they want, but if it is not pointed out just look at the crowd you have in the room, so if it is mixed ages just go for a bit of everything and party it up, best way sometimes is listen to what is been requested is also a help to the style you need to play, but biggest giveaway are the punters tapping thier feet and moving their bums, if you see that your "reading the crowd" the rest will come with experience.
 
Kukee2010 wrote :
@A Man and His Music, Sorry, the question was not about SHOULD he do it, it was about the music. We should be supporting people here, not questioning whether somewhere will hire them. He is a Pro user, so has obviously spent a little time using the software.

Do you remember the first time you had a chance to go out and do a gig. If you had asked the same question and got the response you gave, would that give you confidence, how would you feel?

Sorry about this post, but let us support people here, we are a community, it should not matter what experience people are.




Maybe you should read his post again, because it sure sounded like a lot of questions about "would we, what do you think and so on". Go ahead, read it again, I'll wait until you get it right. The questions I asked him were valid, and he answered them himself, without your help. As for me, I am a pioneer in this game. I was alone because there was no one to ask. I had an idea, 41 years ago and still going strong. I did not need someone to give me confidence. If they did ask me the same questions, I would not have cried because some one asked me tough questions, but answered them. Asking the right questions is showing support, or maybe you missed that point also. It forces us to examine ourselves. Before you step to me, do a little research first, then you may know a little more about me. My record here speaks for itself. You said you were sorry twice in one post, is this a pattern for you?
 
Sorry If I misunderstood, I read it as trying to put him off. I apologise if that is not the case.. I will grab my coat :)
 
Oh, then I read your reply, you do seem quite rude, you know that? I am sure you don't mean to be, but you do come across that way. I was just trying to help Danny with his music situation, and your reply, did cause Danny to write a long response back which the undertones of showed he was a little upset with your response. I am not here to make enemies, just friends, get advice and help people if I can
 
dannyboy2005 wrote :
A Man and His Music wrote :
So, what are you actually offering the pub? Experience? Do you have any skills at all? Do you have any knowledge of what it takes to move a crowd? Do you have enough of the appropriate music? Or, are you a novice that wants to start out in front of a drunken crowd, and see how you do? If you were a club owner, would you hire you?


I'm not actually offering the pub anything.

The way it goes is, my friend always drinks there, he has played a few sets there for a few ££ and a few drinks. All he dose is sit there, drunk out of his face and cross fade on song to another. He doesn't even attempt to beat match (When i asked him if he dose his answer was "What's That?" So if he can do it, i can do it.

I have no knowledge at all. I said what I'd do is sit with him and see what music he plays for the first couple of hours, then i'll come and play (As i like to play and mix music at around 120BPM, so around that time the crowd may be a bit more buzzing)

I'm aware i'll have to play some oldie tunes, and a huge array of genres, but i feel comfortable i have got enough music in my library for a hours or 2 music. (I've spent £££££ on music in the last few weeks)

Yes, i am a novice. I mainly play around in my room (ON VDJ THAT IS) but the odd time i've had a free house, and had a house party i've been mixing. (On the old Mk1 Hercules Console)

I'm not sure if the pub would hire me, perhaps? but i don't think there too bothered who they get to play in all honestly. As a pub in the UK is a 'Public House'. Its where you go to have a social drink of beer, with your friends (then get drunk), very much different from a Bar. All i want out of it is satisfaction from both me and the crowd and i want to start some where, so why not start in the deep end?

I can Mix, although once i get a mental thought of how i want to mix, it says with me all through the night and i can't change my mixing style, though listening to VDJ radio will help me understand better mixes.



I see my questions were not too hard for you, and you answered them all. You seem to have the right amount of confidence and know your abilities. The only advice I can give you is to practice, practice, and practice. Not just the physical part put also the mental, programing part. I say jump into the deep end and see what happens. Let us know how it turns out.
 
tayla wrote :
kukee, think you misunderstood amahm response there, actually by those questions he was trying to find the best way in which to help danny, but i think that will get pointed out anyway... lol

anyways, you have kicked off in the right way danny by purchasing your copy and making sure it is not full of muck that will inevitably dump on you in a gig, the other point no lights etc is generally called a "walk in".

most pub managers when tell you what type of music they want, but if it is not pointed out just look at the crowd you have in the room, so if it is mixed ages just go for a bit of everything and party it up, best way sometimes is listen to what is been requested is also a help to the style you need to play, but biggest giveaway are the punters tapping thier feet and moving their bums, if you see that your "reading the crowd" the rest will come with experience.



I think this was the best reply by far. Although my original question has not been answered. Dose anyone 'Walk In' and not supply lights? (Obv not at clubs and bars)

I didn't find any posts insulting/ rude. As a matter of fact, they were all very useful and informative. Posts can be read differently by different people as its only words, there are no voice tones to help the person understand what their saying.

I know from reading some how to threads that mixing different genre's can be very hard, any tips on this? I sudden drop may work on 9/10, although this will get predictive and boring after a while.

Thanks All
 
The first gig I did with VDJ (i used to gig at a club many years ago but came out of the game for a while for a few reasons), but when I decided to get back into it recently, I walking in with a laptop, PA and an external HD, I now do a few bars, pubs and venues and have since added to my system with lights etc.

I think if you are good and know how to please a crowd, you should be ok, it is all about the music, keeping people moving and giving them a good time.

If you read the mixing forums, there is some good stuff in there about mixing genres and about how much of each genre to do etc. But Tayla is right, read the crowd, see what they like, that is the most important thing
 
Yes you can just show up with music. The extra stuff helps, but is not needed. I will have more to say about this in another post, after tomorrow night.
 
go for it!!! you are going to get that rush that dj's get when people are dancing to your beats. it can't be worse than what's happening now.
 
And whats wrong with djs that simply fade their mixes?? Every dj is different. My clientelle could care less about beat mixing as well as scratching as they are there to see the videos. Not saying that I cant beat mix and blow through 20 songs in a certain amount of time. The bar crowd is way different than the club scene (IMHO).

As far as your original quesion, you dont need lights or anything if you are workin an establishment that has this in place already, hell I own no lights.

Music wise, well I use Promo Only for videos, Napster for what I need when I need it (pay the monthly fee aswell), Itunes for vids as well as audio.

Good luck man, we all have to start somewhere.
 
dannyboy2005 wrote :
I already have asked my mate who calls him self a 'DJ' (Who only fades from one song to the other)...


Whoaa son, let's stop right there for a second. Here's the best advice you're ever going to get: drop the attitude and stop looking down on people - especially since you're just a beginner yourself.

You would not believe how many veteran DJ's there are that don't mix AT ALL, and still rock the crowd. On a average bar where people just come to drink and dance to mainstream music people couldn't care less about your beatmixing skills - infact some might even find it annoying. That's why it's not at all uncommon to see that expensive Pioneer setup collecting dust in the DJ-booth while the DJ puts WinAmp on random plays and lights up a cig.

But I do understand your perspective too. I'm what you could call a "club-DJ", I want to mix & do tricks - and I want the crowd to notice and appriciate it. So the lesson is: don't try to work the crowd on your terms, you will only get fustrated. If you really want a crowd that responds to your style of DJing, you need to find the right venue or even organize your event (which I recommend, it's fun).

dannyboy2005 wrote :
I was wondering if anyone just supply's music and that's it. The venue supply's lights + stands (+ Possibly Speakers


Every nightclub, bar and pub has a PA-system of some sort and usually some lights too. If you are performing in a venue which has neither, you can either A) tell the client to rent PA & lights B) offer to rent PA & lights from somewhere yourself - and charge extra for your efforts.

Option A is the easiest for you, because all you have to do is show up with your laptop and RMX. If you find yourself going for option B often, it's a good idea to try to strike a deal with the supplier you rent the gear from. You promise to rent the gear from him every time you do a gig and he gives you a discount - something that you obviously don't tell to the customer ;)
 
Good points Aural

Everyone has to start somewhere so if you have the oppertunity to work in the bar go for it. It will biuld up your experience and help you get used to the way crowds respond to what you do. Be flexible tho and be prepaired to try musical styles that wont always be your cup of tea. Use this as a stepping stone as it is always easyer to get work when your working already.

best of luck mate

Daz
 
best advice I ever got was to visit ahead of time and see what people are moving to ..then you got a foundation to start with and can build from there.

As for lights, spkrs....it is really in the end up to you..do you want to branch out and go from pub to a hall for a wedding or such...and do you want to invest money for such abilities? that is what I asked myself when I started. the rest will come on or in its own time
But that is my 2 cents worth

As for music only..do what you feel works best for you period. its your time but remember that your being heard and seen
 
From what the head line says.. Any dj's that supply music ? ... No djs supply music. you supply your own music. The clubs already have their own system and you just bring your laptop and maybe the audio interface. Dont worry about lights.. Thats asking for too much.
 
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