DJ MikeD
Hello Fellow DJ's
Interesting just want to get other DJ's input
The question
Will most people dance to a song because its popular or because it has a good beat???????? I guess this guestion is more for Dance music
Waiting for input
MikeD
Interesting just want to get other DJ's input
The question
Will most people dance to a song because its popular or because it has a good beat???????? I guess this guestion is more for Dance music
Waiting for input
MikeD
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 7:48 am
DJ Marcel_1
Familiarity.
The vast majority of people are sheep when it come to music. If it's on the radio - they'll dance to it. If it's a slower song look for a good remix that sounds close to the original. Familiarity is the key. They know it, they dance to it.
You can slip one or two underground or rare tracks in between the flavour of the month songs, But within 3 songs some silly drunk idiot will come up and say - "Are you gonna play anything good tonight?"
The vast majority of people are sheep when it come to music. If it's on the radio - they'll dance to it. If it's a slower song look for a good remix that sounds close to the original. Familiarity is the key. They know it, they dance to it.
You can slip one or two underground or rare tracks in between the flavour of the month songs, But within 3 songs some silly drunk idiot will come up and say - "Are you gonna play anything good tonight?"
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 8:26 am
deuceyjay
well ive found if the beat is controlling and gets peoples heads nodding they are more likely to dance or at least like the song.. most of the music i play is strictly for the sound.. in fact somtimes i dont even care about the words neccisarilly
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 8:38 am
Tear Em 'Up
Marcel is right on. It needs to be something most people recognize. I can't tell you how many times I was deep in a mix and had some chick come up and ask for a song I had just played. "I just played it, you were dancing to it!" "Yeah I know, but I love the last part and want to sing to WHILE I'm dancing." I would not go as far as calling them sheep, but they definitely do tend to act as a herd from time to time....
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 8:48 am
blazemonger
Way, way _WAY_ back I picked up an import 12inch record just released in the USA called 'Lean on Me' by Club Nouveau (Did I mention this was way back).
People would come to the booth completely pissed and yelling at me what this slow BS track was and how I could play cr*p and it was impossible to dance to ..
Knowing a hitrecord when I hear one I told them in a month or two I would have to play it at least once an hour as it would be a dancefloor filler to the extreme and a megahit where people told me I was completely moronic and had no clue about what a hitrecord was.
Guess they were wrong..;)
The point. IMO the groove is more important the the beat, people can and will dance to a record without drums as long as the flow (or groove) is right. They might need to get used to it a bit, but they will and do.
Also the capability of a DJ to mix and mash styles and completely different grooves will be important. When I play a dance set and insert a famous dutch poptrack which has nothing to do with dance, people will go wild (because they all like the track nomatter how they deny it..) and then, after the track intro just before the usual boring bits start, slam into a monster dancegroove I will get everybody flying to the floor. guaranteed.
People would come to the booth completely pissed and yelling at me what this slow BS track was and how I could play cr*p and it was impossible to dance to ..
Knowing a hitrecord when I hear one I told them in a month or two I would have to play it at least once an hour as it would be a dancefloor filler to the extreme and a megahit where people told me I was completely moronic and had no clue about what a hitrecord was.
Guess they were wrong..;)
The point. IMO the groove is more important the the beat, people can and will dance to a record without drums as long as the flow (or groove) is right. They might need to get used to it a bit, but they will and do.
Also the capability of a DJ to mix and mash styles and completely different grooves will be important. When I play a dance set and insert a famous dutch poptrack which has nothing to do with dance, people will go wild (because they all like the track nomatter how they deny it..) and then, after the track intro just before the usual boring bits start, slam into a monster dancegroove I will get everybody flying to the floor. guaranteed.
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 10:12 am
djrenee
Familiarity gets my vote as well. They have to hear the song 200 times on the radio before they will consider dancing to it and honestly it drives me crazy. By the time a song becomes a "dance floor hit" I'm way over it. My peeps also have no interest in mash-ups, more than once I've tried to slip a few in and I get comments like "Do you have the right version of that song" as if I played the "wrong" version.
Like I said, it drives me crazy and that's a very short drive.
Like I said, it drives me crazy and that's a very short drive.
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 11:34 am
Charlie Wilson
Brain washing goes a long way, that's why we play a lot of the same shit.
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 11:42 am
bonaparte
Yeah they have to hear it on the radio over and over... however there a few artists that will get them dancing on new releases if you do video.
Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Britney Spears, and Madonna (not so much lately)... will usually get them dancing even when it's a new release. Try to mix dance songs that they are familar with and then you can always throw in something new.
Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Britney Spears, and Madonna (not so much lately)... will usually get them dancing even when it's a new release. Try to mix dance songs that they are familar with and then you can always throw in something new.
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 2:39 pm
Dazmax
Ahh you see Renne I knew you were just an old fassioned girl at heart :-) .
But I know what you mean. So many people will say they realy like so and so when its just that it has become etched into their brains by repeated plays on the radio or just because everyone arround them sais its cool. Ohh it must be great to be an individual. The same goes for drinks that are the flava of the month, cars, clothes that are the must have and Bose speakers.LOL
Daz
But I know what you mean. So many people will say they realy like so and so when its just that it has become etched into their brains by repeated plays on the radio or just because everyone arround them sais its cool. Ohh it must be great to be an individual. The same goes for drinks that are the flava of the month, cars, clothes that are the must have and Bose speakers.LOL
Daz
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 2:45 pm
wildcountryclub
they dance because they want to get laid - everything else is just reasoning towards the goal.
had a nice long thought i was gonna put in explaining that, but i think that pretty much says it all.
had a nice long thought i was gonna put in explaining that, but i think that pretty much says it all.
Posté Fri 11 Dec 09 @ 3:38 pm
7citiesVDJays
People tend to favor music that is popular these days. I use popular acapellas to lure them into my beats.
Posté Wed 16 Dec 09 @ 2:21 am
dj-e-lectric
paulheu wrote :
Way, way _WAY_ back I picked up an import 12inch record just released in the USA called 'Lean on Me' by Club Nouveau (Did I mention this was way back).
People would come to the booth completely pissed and yelling at me what this slow BS track was and how I could play cr*p and it was impossible to dance to ..
Knowing a hitrecord when I hear one I told them in a month or two I would have to play it at least once an hour as it would be a dancefloor filler to the extreme and a megahit where people told me I was completely moronic and had no clue about what a hitrecord was.
Guess they were wrong..;)
People would come to the booth completely pissed and yelling at me what this slow BS track was and how I could play cr*p and it was impossible to dance to ..
Knowing a hitrecord when I hear one I told them in a month or two I would have to play it at least once an hour as it would be a dancefloor filler to the extreme and a megahit where people told me I was completely moronic and had no clue about what a hitrecord was.
Guess they were wrong..;)
Thanks Paul for making the "Familiarity" argument for us. As you said everybody thought it was crap....until they heard it on the radio and other clubs 18 gazillion times.....my vote is baaaaaah baaaaaah baaaaaah baaaaaah baaaaaan
Posté Wed 16 Dec 09 @ 4:26 am
phillysoul
in regards to top40 clubs, people will usually dance to what they know first at the beginning of the night, so playing well-known material then is a good idea. eventually the idea is you should earn the crowd's trust, so when you do drop a song they've never heard, they're more likely to stay on the dancefloor and hear it out
funny enough with house and electronic dance music, many times no one knows what the tracks are but they don't care.. they are there to hear the sound the DJ has to offer
funny enough with house and electronic dance music, many times no one knows what the tracks are but they don't care.. they are there to hear the sound the DJ has to offer
Posté Wed 16 Dec 09 @ 1:41 pm
GadgetMan
bonaparte wrote :
Yeah they have to hear it on the radio over and over... however there a few artists that will get them dancing on new releases if you do video.
Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Britney Spears, and Madonna (not so much lately)... will usually get them dancing even when it's a new release. Try to mix dance songs that they are familar with and then you can always throw in something new.
Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Britney Spears, and Madonna (not so much lately)... will usually get them dancing even when it's a new release. Try to mix dance songs that they are familar with and then you can always throw in something new.
I played Lady GaGa - Just Dance this time last year and practically cleared the dancefloor. Complete opposite now!!!
Also agree about the faster mix stuff. Moto Blanco, Manhattan Clique, Jason Nevins, Bimbo Jones, etc. Means that even some of the lamest popular tunes (She Wolf is a prime example) can be made to sound good enough to dance too...
Roy
Posté Thu 17 Dec 09 @ 7:30 am
Joop3m
In our joint, it's probably too crowded to stay at the bar hehe... they have to !
regards,
Joop
regards,
Joop
Posté Thu 17 Dec 09 @ 8:25 am
dj-e-lectric
I am finding more and more people are not even going to the clubs to dance anymore. They are just coming out to meet, mingle, see and be seen. Many clubs and "lounges" in Scottsdale and surrounding Phoenix areas don't even have dance floors anymore. This is one of the reasons I think Video is gaining hugely in popularity as it is an additional entertainment form for those who don't like to move and groove. When they do dance their attention span is so short they will only dance to a minute or so of a song anyway and then head back to the bar....almost to say "See I'm cool, I can dance, now where's my drink".
The straightup dance nightclubs will always have dancing (that is their main purpose) and if you play predominantly a single style format (i.e all house/dance or all rap/hip hop or all rock/alternative) you are "preaching to the choir" and so they will dance to non hit music because they are "into" that music format so it is all good to them. When you play a top 40 format you are attracting a crowd that likes top 40 music so it makes sense they will not appreciate "new" or unrecognized music as that is not what they like. The unfortunate thing is that the vast majority of people fall into the top 40 category. That is why those songs are top 40 to begin with, because that is what the vast majority of people have chosen to like at any given point in time.
People mistake Top 40 as a genre and that has always bothered me. Top 40 is NOT a genre, it is a popularity contest. Top 40 is a bizarre collection of individual songs from all genres that the majority of people like at that given point in time (for whatever reasons). Get Low by Lil Jon is hip hop (or rap depending on your degree of tolerance for rap), Crazy Bitch by Buckcherry is rock, Evacuate the Dance Floor by Cascada is dance/house/trance/electro (depending on which of the 200 remixes you play and how picky you are about your 14 gazillion dance sun-genres)......three entirely different genres and all three were played in their specialized clubs LONG before the general public decided to like them and then in their respective time all three made the top 40 charts so they are grouped together as "Top 40" by POPULARIY, not by musical genre!
The straightup dance nightclubs will always have dancing (that is their main purpose) and if you play predominantly a single style format (i.e all house/dance or all rap/hip hop or all rock/alternative) you are "preaching to the choir" and so they will dance to non hit music because they are "into" that music format so it is all good to them. When you play a top 40 format you are attracting a crowd that likes top 40 music so it makes sense they will not appreciate "new" or unrecognized music as that is not what they like. The unfortunate thing is that the vast majority of people fall into the top 40 category. That is why those songs are top 40 to begin with, because that is what the vast majority of people have chosen to like at any given point in time.
People mistake Top 40 as a genre and that has always bothered me. Top 40 is NOT a genre, it is a popularity contest. Top 40 is a bizarre collection of individual songs from all genres that the majority of people like at that given point in time (for whatever reasons). Get Low by Lil Jon is hip hop (or rap depending on your degree of tolerance for rap), Crazy Bitch by Buckcherry is rock, Evacuate the Dance Floor by Cascada is dance/house/trance/electro (depending on which of the 200 remixes you play and how picky you are about your 14 gazillion dance sun-genres)......three entirely different genres and all three were played in their specialized clubs LONG before the general public decided to like them and then in their respective time all three made the top 40 charts so they are grouped together as "Top 40" by POPULARIY, not by musical genre!
Posté Thu 17 Dec 09 @ 3:01 pm