blu...you've lost me...lol watch the vid again and give me a time when I'm doing it...
Oh and glad to hear it's working now :)
Oh and glad to hear it's working now :)
Posté Thu 10 Feb 11 @ 4:55 pm
@ Blu...looking at the MP3 E2 it doesn't have controls for the effect parameters (sliders) so to control the cut rate you could add the following to the PITCH control in the mapper.
PITCH : var "scratcheffect" ? effect "cut" slider 1 : param_multiply 1% & pitch
This will allow you to control the cut rate by using the PITCH rotary control, but only when the "scratcheffect" is active. When the "scratcheffect" is not active, the PITCH rotary control will go back to controlling the pitch.
This might allow you to get the effect you spoke about.
Simon
PITCH : var "scratcheffect" ? effect "cut" slider 1 : param_multiply 1% & pitch
This will allow you to control the cut rate by using the PITCH rotary control, but only when the "scratcheffect" is active. When the "scratcheffect" is not active, the PITCH rotary control will go back to controlling the pitch.
This might allow you to get the effect you spoke about.
Simon
Posté Fri 11 Feb 11 @ 4:48 am
Simon,
After seeing your clip I had the itch also to try this and I got it working on my Mix Deck.It is a blast and having fun screwing around trying different styles of music.I still need to tweak some with the mapping bit..I used a Hotcue1 that activates the cut and jog with the filter and have it set to 25 for now..
Thanks for the idea...
After seeing your clip I had the itch also to try this and I got it working on my Mix Deck.It is a blast and having fun screwing around trying different styles of music.I still need to tweak some with the mapping bit..I used a Hotcue1 that activates the cut and jog with the filter and have it set to 25 for now..
Thanks for the idea...
Posté Fri 11 Feb 11 @ 7:45 pm
@ Lineman...glad you like it...it is just good fun, isn't it...always makes me giggle when I do it...and you'd be surprised at how a crowd reacts to it...lol
To many DJ's take themselves waaaaaaaaay to seriously...I DJ because it's fun...and for me that's what it's about.
To many DJ's take themselves waaaaaaaaay to seriously...I DJ because it's fun...and for me that's what it's about.
Posté Sat 12 Feb 11 @ 6:19 am
Would still like to see a bit closer on how you have it set up..even though I have it working for now..but just to clean it up on my screwing around with the mapping..heh.heh.
If you find time to post one Im sure myself and others would really appreciate your services!
James
If you find time to post one Im sure myself and others would really appreciate your services!
James
Posté Sat 12 Feb 11 @ 10:42 am
James,
can you be a bit more specific when you say "take a closer look how it's setup"...and I'll put a vid up with what your looking for.
Simon
can you be a bit more specific when you say "take a closer look how it's setup"...and I'll put a vid up with what your looking for.
Simon
Posté Sat 12 Feb 11 @ 3:04 pm
much appreciated Simon..really what ever you can post with a few closeups would be excellent..mabe a top view of your setup so I can get a more clear pic of whats going on.Im new to this mapping thing and playing around I got it to work..but Im thinking I probably mapped a bit more then what is needed for this effect...(the learning curve kicks in here). I am assuming you are playing the same tune on both tracks at once and manipulating only one side?
really..what ever you can would be great..I think this is really a blast and something different to entertain with once in awhile.
really..what ever you can would be great..I think this is really a blast and something different to entertain with once in awhile.
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 10:22 am
Ok so since I am really pathetic when it comes to mapping how would I do this with the MC6000. Keep it simple boys...really simple lol
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 12:38 pm
ok.. really screwed up my mapping on this..Help needed using the Mixdeck to map this out if anyone here could step up.
I have the HOTCUE1 set to activate effect "cut" active & toggle "scratcheffect" & filter 50%
result: CUT only activates...no FILTER
I have the JOGWHEEL set to activate var "scratcheffect" ? param_multiply 2 & filter : jogwheel
RESULT: NOTHING HAPPENS anymore...I have reset back to default for now.
I have been reading the MAPPING and script language in the manual and having a bit of a time wrapping my thick head around this.
Any help or suggestions?
I have the HOTCUE1 set to activate effect "cut" active & toggle "scratcheffect" & filter 50%
result: CUT only activates...no FILTER
I have the JOGWHEEL set to activate var "scratcheffect" ? param_multiply 2 & filter : jogwheel
RESULT: NOTHING HAPPENS anymore...I have reset back to default for now.
I have been reading the MAPPING and script language in the manual and having a bit of a time wrapping my thick head around this.
Any help or suggestions?
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 1:36 pm
James...the Mixdeck and the NDX800's are very similiar, so I'd think that the mapping I use should work for you.
These are the items that need changing for it to work.
REV: set "scratcheffect" while_pressed & effect "cut" active while_pressed
JOG: var "scratcheffect" ? param_multiply 4 & filter : touchwheel
JOG_TOUCH: var "scratcheffect" ? param_multiply 4 & filter : touchwheel_touch
You need to map both the JOG and JOG_TOUCH items...otherwise it won't work - well that's how it works on my NDX's
START: effect slider 1
STOP: effect slider 2
BLEEP: filter 50%
WET_DRY: effect slider 1
The next three are nothing to do with the effect, but are handy when you want to search through a track.
SEARCH: set "needledrop" while_pressed
PITCHBEND+: var "needledrop" ? seek +4 : pitch_bend +2% 500ms
PITCHBEND-: var "needledrop" ? seek -4 : pitch_bend -2% 500ms
Don't worry if you mess your factory settings up or want to revert back to them after playing, you can do that within the mapper tab.
As for having the same track on both decks...in the video, yes...but you can also do it with 2 seperate tracks that are harmonically matched.
Oh...and James, do you get the Artist and Track Title appearing on the Mixdeck screens? The mapping is there for it in the NDX mapping, but nothing appears on-screen.
Simon
These are the items that need changing for it to work.
REV: set "scratcheffect" while_pressed & effect "cut" active while_pressed
JOG: var "scratcheffect" ? param_multiply 4 & filter : touchwheel
JOG_TOUCH: var "scratcheffect" ? param_multiply 4 & filter : touchwheel_touch
You need to map both the JOG and JOG_TOUCH items...otherwise it won't work - well that's how it works on my NDX's
START: effect slider 1
STOP: effect slider 2
BLEEP: filter 50%
WET_DRY: effect slider 1
The next three are nothing to do with the effect, but are handy when you want to search through a track.
SEARCH: set "needledrop" while_pressed
PITCHBEND+: var "needledrop" ? seek +4 : pitch_bend +2% 500ms
PITCHBEND-: var "needledrop" ? seek -4 : pitch_bend -2% 500ms
Don't worry if you mess your factory settings up or want to revert back to them after playing, you can do that within the mapper tab.
As for having the same track on both decks...in the video, yes...but you can also do it with 2 seperate tracks that are harmonically matched.
Oh...and James, do you get the Artist and Track Title appearing on the Mixdeck screens? The mapping is there for it in the NDX mapping, but nothing appears on-screen.
Simon
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 3:28 pm
Zamooda...I'm sorry but I don't have an MC6000 so figuring out the mapping (which for the MC6000 is already quite complex) isn't something I can accomplish.
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 3:33 pm
Hi Simon I can confirm that those things do show up on the Mixdeck screen. Im gonna give your mapping a try later on, lol!
Huey
Huey
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 4:18 pm
Huey...grrrr...they don't show up on my NDX800's screens....grrrrrrrrrrrrrr....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
Bud, can you take a quick pic showing what the Mixdeck screens show, so that I can compare it to what is shown on the NDX's...
In fact...can you post the action for the TEXT element from your Mixdeck mapper...as I have "get artist-title" but this does not seem to exist as a VDJScript Verb...
Bud, can you take a quick pic showing what the Mixdeck screens show, so that I can compare it to what is shown on the NDX's...
In fact...can you post the action for the TEXT element from your Mixdeck mapper...as I have "get artist-title" but this does not seem to exist as a VDJScript Verb...
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 5:31 pm
Hey Simon - appreciate the heads up. Thanks!!
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 8:05 pm
Here's my display,

It shows the track name and artist, bpm, keylock, pitch %, hot cues, what # deck your on, time (elapsed remain, which ever 1 I want) and play, pause and stop. Id like it if it showed the actual "key" of the track.
Heres what the mapper says,
<map value="LCD_TRACK" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_MP3" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_HD" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_CD" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_CARD" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_TOTAL" action="display_time "total"" />
<map value="LCD_ELAPSED" action="display_time "elapsed"" />
<map value="LCD_REMAIN" action="display_time "remain"" />
<map value="LCD_SINGLE" action="automix ? off : on" />
<map value="LCD_KEY_OVAL" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_BPM" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_KEY" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_PITCH" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_HOTCUE_1" action="cue 1 ? blink : hot_cue 1" />
<map value="LCD_HOTCUE_2" action="cue 2 ? blink : hot_cue 2" />
<map value="LCD_TIME_DOTS" action="on" />
<map value="BAR_PROGRESS+" action="display_time "elapsed" ? song_pos : nothing" />
<map value="BAR_PROGRESS-" action="display_time "remain" ? song_pos : nothing" />
<map value="DIGIT_DECK" action="get deck" />
<map value="DIGIT_TRACK_TOTAL" action="get deck" />
<map value="DIGIT_MIN" action="get time_min" />
<map value="DIGIT_SEC" action="get time_sec" />
<map value="DIGIT_FRAME" action="get time_ms" />
<map value="DIGIT_BPM" action="get bpm" />
<map value="DIGIT_PITCH" action="get pitch" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_5" action="loop_select 16" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_4" action="loop_select 8" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_3" action="loop_select 4" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_2" action="loop_select 2" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_1" action="loop_select 1" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_100" action="pitch_range 100%" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_25" action="pitch_range 25%" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_12" action="pitch_range 12%" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_6" action="pitch_range 6%" />
<map value="LCD_KEY_VALUE" action="get key_modifier" />
<map value="LCD_PITCH_DOT" action="on" />
<map value="TEXT" action="get artist-title" />
<map value="LCD_BPM_DOT" action="on" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_ZERO" action="get pitch_zero 0.5%" />
<map value="RING_PAT2" action="get rotation" />
Hope that helps
Huey
Hmm, I just noticed it has "get_Key_modifer" but the key doesnt show up on my screen???

It shows the track name and artist, bpm, keylock, pitch %, hot cues, what # deck your on, time (elapsed remain, which ever 1 I want) and play, pause and stop. Id like it if it showed the actual "key" of the track.
Heres what the mapper says,
<map value="LCD_TRACK" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_MP3" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_HD" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_CD" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_CARD" action="off" />
<map value="LCD_TOTAL" action="display_time "total"" />
<map value="LCD_ELAPSED" action="display_time "elapsed"" />
<map value="LCD_REMAIN" action="display_time "remain"" />
<map value="LCD_SINGLE" action="automix ? off : on" />
<map value="LCD_KEY_OVAL" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_BPM" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_KEY" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_PITCH" action="on" />
<map value="LCD_HOTCUE_1" action="cue 1 ? blink : hot_cue 1" />
<map value="LCD_HOTCUE_2" action="cue 2 ? blink : hot_cue 2" />
<map value="LCD_TIME_DOTS" action="on" />
<map value="BAR_PROGRESS+" action="display_time "elapsed" ? song_pos : nothing" />
<map value="BAR_PROGRESS-" action="display_time "remain" ? song_pos : nothing" />
<map value="DIGIT_DECK" action="get deck" />
<map value="DIGIT_TRACK_TOTAL" action="get deck" />
<map value="DIGIT_MIN" action="get time_min" />
<map value="DIGIT_SEC" action="get time_sec" />
<map value="DIGIT_FRAME" action="get time_ms" />
<map value="DIGIT_BPM" action="get bpm" />
<map value="DIGIT_PITCH" action="get pitch" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_5" action="loop_select 16" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_4" action="loop_select 8" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_3" action="loop_select 4" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_2" action="loop_select 2" />
<map value="LED_SHIFT_1" action="loop_select 1" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_100" action="pitch_range 100%" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_25" action="pitch_range 25%" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_12" action="pitch_range 12%" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_6" action="pitch_range 6%" />
<map value="LCD_KEY_VALUE" action="get key_modifier" />
<map value="LCD_PITCH_DOT" action="on" />
<map value="TEXT" action="get artist-title" />
<map value="LCD_BPM_DOT" action="on" />
<map value="LED_PITCH_ZERO" action="get pitch_zero 0.5%" />
<map value="RING_PAT2" action="get rotation" />
Hope that helps
Huey
Hmm, I just noticed it has "get_Key_modifer" but the key doesnt show up on my screen???
Posté Sun 13 Feb 11 @ 11:58 pm
if the displays are not working, please try installing the latest firmware from http://www.numark.com/ndx800
Also, make sure that you have the latest VirtualDJ v7.0.2 installed: http://www.virtualdj.com/download/updates.html
Also, make sure that you have the latest VirtualDJ v7.0.2 installed: http://www.virtualdj.com/download/updates.html
Posté Mon 14 Feb 11 @ 7:09 am
@ Support...I have the latest version of VDJ and also the latest FW for the NDX800 (028)...in fairness the title-artist has never been displayed on my NDX800's (regardless of VDJ version or FW version), everything else displays ok (with the exception of the "get key_modifier", which it seems is also true on the Mixdeck).
Posté Mon 14 Feb 11 @ 8:09 am
Im not even sure if "Get Key Modifier" works...........I tried to have it show up after the title and artist but got nothing..... After taking a closer look at the lcd screen itself I don't think its even possible to have the key show as a letter? There's just not enough things in there (the digital part that makes the letters or numbers ) it would show the numbered version of a key but I can't get it to work either..........
Simon let me know if you find a fix, Thanks
Huey
Simon let me know if you find a fix, Thanks
Huey
Posté Mon 14 Feb 11 @ 8:59 am
Thankyou Simon for posting the needed info,,,it works great! I was in NY on business during the week..so I apologize for not getting back to you and thanking you sooner.
Works much better with the correct mapping script for your listed choice of buttons also.
Works much better with the correct mapping script for your listed choice of buttons also.
Posté Fri 18 Feb 11 @ 8:51 pm
James...no need for an apology bud...just glad it's working for you and your enjoying it :)
So is anyone else going to post a video of themselves "Just messing about"? :)
So is anyone else going to post a video of themselves "Just messing about"? :)
Posté Sat 19 Feb 11 @ 5:29 am