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After some research I found that most people recommend 160 KBPS or higher for preforming. I noticed literally half of my itunes library is under this, with usually being around 128 KBS. I'm literally screwed if this makes that much of a difference, I have over 5,000 songs. Am I just supposed to re-download them? Is there any other routes on this topic? Thank you.
 
Posté Mon 15 Oct 12 @ 11:16 pm
http://download.cnet.com/FormatFactory/3000-2194_4-10968547.html and http://download.cnet.com/Helium-Audio-Converter/3000-2140_4-75453390.html bro i was in the same boat as you. i downloaded both of these programs and ran both at the same tyme. i converted all my music to 320 bitrate. so now everytyme i get new music i run them through Helium Audio Converter (this one is faster than format factory) both are free and really great programs. format factory does everything under the sun mp3s,videos,pictures,ect,ect
 
I heard converting already downloaded files to a higher bit rate does nothing, due to the fact it's already lost some of its frequencies?

Anyways, the first download was a zip. The second is .exe, which I can't use. I'm on a mac. I'll try looking for a similar program, unless you have any suggestion.

Thanks man!
 
pretty.lights wrote :
I heard converting already downloaded files to a higher bit rate does nothing, due to the fact it's already lost some of its frequencies?

Exactly!
If you convert a 64kpbs mono file to 320kbps stereo, it will still sound as 64kbps mono...
 
You will have to re-rip from your original CDs at 256k or 320k.

The end result though does depend on the program material. If the song was recorded in someone's garage in the 60s then you won't gain much by ripping at 320k. For example old mono rock & roll recordings are often quite bad compared to modern stuff, so keeping those as 128k won't really matter too much.
 
groovindj wrote :
You will have to re-rip from your original CDs at 256k or 320k.

The end result though does depend on the program material. If the song was recorded in someone's garage in the 60s then you won't gain much by ripping at 320k. For example old mono rock & roll recordings are often quite bad compared to modern stuff, so keeping those as 128k won't really matter too much.


Agreed
I just re-ripped my library to lossless. Some of the songs on my 50's and 60's compilation disc's were under 320 with no compression.
 
Well i did my own testing.alot of my songs were at 128bitrate so i did on a few songs to 320 to compare and i could hear the difference
 
djtyme209 wrote :
Well i did my own testing.alot of my songs were at 128bitrate so i did on a few songs to 320 to compare and i could hear the difference


I'm gonna guess that the difference you hear is the artifacts and stuff being smoothed out in the recoding. Get a CD, rip it to 320 CBR and copy it. Convert the copy to 128, then back to 320, and listen to the 2. If you have good headphones, or if your playing on good monitors, you should hear the difference. If you have the hard drive space, rip your stuff to lossless. I had a few tracks at 320 CBR that I thought sounded great, then I listened to a CD and heard some difference. My OCD caused me to re-rip my whole collection, now I need a new hard drive.
 
2/3 of my library has 160 kbps or higher. I'm dj'ing my cousins prom, which has hundreds of people. What would you guys recommend? The Yotube to --> mp3 converter does not offer a function for a higher bit rate, nor does keepvid.com. And I do not believe everyone on this forum buys all their music from itunes!
 
You actually DJ with music you've ripped from YouTube??!!
 
pretty.lights wrote :
And I do not believe everyone on this forum buys all their music from itunes!


You are right - i got mine from the lables directely as promotion or rip them from CD.

Never heard about any professional that uses Youtube stuff. Sorry but this is not the best way you are walking on.

Just my 2 cents.

Greets, Heiko
 
jakovski wrote :
pretty.lights wrote :
And I do not believe everyone on this forum buys all their music from itunes!


You are right - i got mine from the lables directely as promotion or rip them from CD.

Never heard about any professional that uses Youtube stuff. Sorry but this is not the best way you are walking on.

Just my 2 cents.

Greets, Heiko


pretty.lights wrote :
The Yotube to --> mp3 converter does not offer a function for a higher bit rate, nor does keepvid.com. And I do not believe everyone on this forum buys all their music from itunes!


Agreed,
Playing from YouTube or torrent sources is illegal, no matter how you look at it. A bad path to be on regardless of professional or home use. All it takes is one person to find out and be unhappy with you, and they make a phone call. Copyright lawsuits are on the rise, rightfully so, and not going away. Plus, as you are finding out, the quality is noticeably worse. There are cheaper alternatives to iTunes, in fact check out the premium service offered by VirtualDJ, it works right within the program you are DJ'ng with.

http://www.virtualdj.com/products/membership.html

Understanding the high cost required when investing in music, it is just like any other piece of equipment you use. If you are doing this for a business, then there are business costs involved. A lot of the people here have been building their libraries for 20+ years. I got my first new album in 1987, Michael Jackson's Bad, before that was hand-me-downs.

pretty.lights wrote :
I'm dj'ing my cousins prom, which has hundreds of people.


Prom's are a big deal, kinda like weddings. I would do a lot of research on sound howto, equipment setup, back up plans, etc., before taking on a gig like that. If you have no or little experience in this stuff, I would find someone who does to team up with to get the experience you need. At lease make sure you get out and do a lot of gig's before then (not knowing when this prom is, but I assume soon).
 
What do you recommend I do then?? What is this, "ripping", you speak of?

EDIT: The prom is next year. and I do dj a bar every week or two.
 
pretty.lights wrote :
What do you recommend I do then?? What is this, "ripping", you speak of? Oh, and also...my VMS4 jog wheels are only controlling the songs tempo, not actually scratching. What allows me to control the scratch? Thanks!

I would keep the VMS4 questions going in the other topic you have regarding the VMS4

"Ripping" is the term used to describe pulling off the audio track from a CD or other source and putting into a digital file format for playback from a computer.

iTunes, Audiograbber, etc. are programs that will allow you to import "rip" a CD for this purpose. Always check the settings on these programs, as the default settings are quite often of a lower than desired quality. I would not rip anything under 320CBR (not VBR). I now only rip to a lossless quality.
 
I just feel like a total jacka$$ now lol

My iTunes import settings are set to: 112 kbps (mono)/224 kbps (stereo), VBR, optimized for MMX/SSE2
 
Actually, converting 128kbit MP3 to 320kbit MP3 will even sound *worse* than the 128kbit, as you are recompressing...
 
Hi, so here's something that might help all you people with 128kbps mp3s...

Itunes match!!!

For $25 per year they will back up your crappy mp3s in the cloud. Only it doesn't actually upload your crappy files, it just "matches" them to files with the same name already on itunes... And they're all 256kbps aac (which I'm pretty happy to DJ with - definitely much better than your 128kbps mp3s!!) Any that it can't match do actually get uploaded to the cloud so you won't get better quality versions of those, but for $25 dollars you get nearly all your songs "converted" to much better quality, and all backed-up in the cloud.

Help that helps. I've done it because some of my songs are 192kps mp3 I ripped years ago before I knew any better. :-D

http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
Sounds like a good deal - but if it goes by file name alone, I can see a potential problem with it replacing long versions with radio edits.
 
That makes sense, I will give that a try. But aren't 192 kbps songs about the bare minimum we should use?
 
Hey Andy,

Does the icloud symbol next to any song imply that it has an upgraded bit rate and mp3 file? I see the bit rates haven't changed, but I can't quite tell. Thanks bro!
 
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