Are there any post fader type delays and echos the loopout effect is close just doesnt actually sound like i want. like i wanna scratch and the echo of it continues...
Posté Tue 25 Dec 12 @ 11:20 pm
Nope, nothing even close. Well nothing that'll work when scratching. I'm with you though we need post fader effects even if it's just a simple delay of some sort.
Put in a request in the WISHES forum...
Put in a request in the WISHES forum...
Posté Tue 25 Dec 12 @ 11:39 pm
That's interesting . I was thinking echo might work but then when you're scratching both hands are usually occupied. unless you can turn on the echo fast enough with a short cut. or delay. there's gotta be a way. even if it means using the clone feature and then using 4 decks. I hope this makes sense.
Posté Thu 27 Dec 12 @ 2:30 am
have you tried Deun Deun's ramp delay? It's the best effect in VDJ IMO. Never tried scratching with it running. Also chackl's rollit should be able to record a scratch noise and repeat up to a 1 beat loop.
Also as I have said countless times, if you want post fader effects you just need to activate a VST behind your echo... The one that I use is "moot" by De La Mancha. It is a simple volume control with a mute button and a gate if you want it.
To stick it behind everything else just enable 'moot' with the ONINIT command and replace the volume faders with controlling moot eg
effect 'moot' slider 1 & fake_volume
(not sure which slider controls the volume on the effect off the top of my head)
www.delamancha.co.uk/moot.htm
Also as I have said countless times, if you want post fader effects you just need to activate a VST behind your echo... The one that I use is "moot" by De La Mancha. It is a simple volume control with a mute button and a gate if you want it.
To stick it behind everything else just enable 'moot' with the ONINIT command and replace the volume faders with controlling moot eg
effect 'moot' slider 1 & fake_volume
(not sure which slider controls the volume on the effect off the top of my head)
www.delamancha.co.uk/moot.htm
Posté Thu 27 Dec 12 @ 5:01 am
have a look at Echo Doppler in the effects section. it's not truly 'post fader' but using slider 1 (wet/dry control) you can get some decent echo 'post fader' type effects.
I'm just thinking up bit of a hack to make you be able to scratch with an echo on.
Okay, so since it's the Christmas holidays I've got a bit of spare time, so I've come up with this...
First, you need to map a button to turn 'echo scratch mode' on. Map it to this command:
toggle "echo_scratch_mode" & var "echo_scratch_mode" ? deck left effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" active on & deck left effect "echodoppler" button 2 & deck left effect "echodoppler" button 4 & deck left effect "echodoppler" button 5 on & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 3 4% & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 4 40% & deck right effect "echodoppler" button 2 & deck right effect "echodoppler" button 4 on & deck right effect "echodoppler" button 5 on & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 3 4% & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 4 40% : deck left effect "echodoppler" active off & deck right effect "echodoppler" active off
... then delete the usual "crossfader" mapping and replace it with this:
var "echo_scratch_mode" ? fake_crossfader & param_greater 50% ? deck left effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" active on & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 1 50% & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 1 0% & param_equal 100% ? deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 1 100% & deck right effect "echodoppler" active off :nothing : deck left effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 1 50% & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 1 0% & param_equal 0% ? deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 1 100% & deck left effect "echodoppler" active off : nothing : crossfader_slider
Oh yeah, and you'l need to download "echo doppler" http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/12067/EchoDoppler.html
Here's how it works: Say you have the sample you're scratching on deck 2 and a beat on deck 1, as long as the crossfader is over half way left then the sample will have an echo, if it's moved over the half way line to the right then the echo will just die out. The interesting bit is if you move the the crossfader all the way to the left to "cut" the sample you're scratching then it will echo out. And of course it works the other way around if the sample you're scratching is on the left deck.
You can tell which mode you're in when you press the button because the 2 echo effects will turn on when you press the button and off again when it's deactivated.
Hope that helps!
I'm just thinking up bit of a hack to make you be able to scratch with an echo on.
Okay, so since it's the Christmas holidays I've got a bit of spare time, so I've come up with this...
First, you need to map a button to turn 'echo scratch mode' on. Map it to this command:
toggle "echo_scratch_mode" & var "echo_scratch_mode" ? deck left effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" active on & deck left effect "echodoppler" button 2 & deck left effect "echodoppler" button 4 & deck left effect "echodoppler" button 5 on & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 3 4% & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 4 40% & deck right effect "echodoppler" button 2 & deck right effect "echodoppler" button 4 on & deck right effect "echodoppler" button 5 on & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 3 4% & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 4 40% : deck left effect "echodoppler" active off & deck right effect "echodoppler" active off
... then delete the usual "crossfader" mapping and replace it with this:
var "echo_scratch_mode" ? fake_crossfader & param_greater 50% ? deck left effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" active on & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 1 50% & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 1 0% & param_equal 100% ? deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 1 100% & deck right effect "echodoppler" active off :nothing : deck left effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" active on & deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 1 50% & deck left effect "echodoppler" slider 1 0% & param_equal 0% ? deck right effect "echodoppler" slider 1 100% & deck left effect "echodoppler" active off : nothing : crossfader_slider
Oh yeah, and you'l need to download "echo doppler" http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/12067/EchoDoppler.html
Here's how it works: Say you have the sample you're scratching on deck 2 and a beat on deck 1, as long as the crossfader is over half way left then the sample will have an echo, if it's moved over the half way line to the right then the echo will just die out. The interesting bit is if you move the the crossfader all the way to the left to "cut" the sample you're scratching then it will echo out. And of course it works the other way around if the sample you're scratching is on the left deck.
You can tell which mode you're in when you press the button because the 2 echo effects will turn on when you press the button and off again when it's deactivated.
Hope that helps!
Posté Thu 27 Dec 12 @ 6:38 am
ok im lost i dont understand that...look like martian eptograph....lost in the sauce...
Posté Fri 28 Dec 12 @ 7:08 pm
Lol, so basically I had a bit of time on my hands, so I made this work around where I've mapped the crossfader to control the wet/dry slider in the echo effect I use.
The overall effect is a scratch style cross-fader that lets the song echo out when you 'cut' the song using the crossfader.
Obviously, you wouldn't want it to happen like that all the time, so the first bit of code is so you can map a button to turn the special "echo crossfader" on and off.
What controller do you have?
Whatever it is, go to 'config' in Virtual DJ, go to mappers and choose the one for your controller, then find the "crossfader" mapping and replace whatever's there with that second bit of code by copying and pasting it from above.
Then, choose either a button on your controller, or on your computer keyboard that you have spare, and copy that first bit of code from above into the mapping box in virtual dj.
Now, when you press that button it will turn on the echo effect (don't forget to install it from that link!) for both decks. Now, when you slide the crossfader it will behave like a normal scratch style crossfader but when you move it right to the edges the song that gets 'cut' will echo out.
Hope that makes a little more sense- it's worth a try if you can get it sussed. I can make a quick video of how to copy the mappings I wrote into virtual dj if you haven't done anything like that before?
The overall effect is a scratch style cross-fader that lets the song echo out when you 'cut' the song using the crossfader.
Obviously, you wouldn't want it to happen like that all the time, so the first bit of code is so you can map a button to turn the special "echo crossfader" on and off.
What controller do you have?
Whatever it is, go to 'config' in Virtual DJ, go to mappers and choose the one for your controller, then find the "crossfader" mapping and replace whatever's there with that second bit of code by copying and pasting it from above.
Then, choose either a button on your controller, or on your computer keyboard that you have spare, and copy that first bit of code from above into the mapping box in virtual dj.
Now, when you press that button it will turn on the echo effect (don't forget to install it from that link!) for both decks. Now, when you slide the crossfader it will behave like a normal scratch style crossfader but when you move it right to the edges the song that gets 'cut' will echo out.
Hope that makes a little more sense- it's worth a try if you can get it sussed. I can make a quick video of how to copy the mappings I wrote into virtual dj if you haven't done anything like that before?
Posté Sat 29 Dec 12 @ 7:10 am
no im scared i might fux up everything...
Posté Sun 30 Dec 12 @ 11:39 am
bbut this echo doppler is a beast tho...i come from traktor and been looking for this type of echo....
Posté Sun 30 Dec 12 @ 1:04 pm
Well if you do make a mistake, there's a button on the "mapping" page just below the list of commands called "restore default mapping" so if you do change anything and can't work out how to put it back, you can just hit that button to restore everything to how it was.
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
Posté Tue 01 Jan 13 @ 12:05 pm
Try this one as well, http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/14161/Ramp_Delay.html
Posté Tue 01 Jan 13 @ 2:22 pm