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Hi I have downloaded 16 band eq ,but it can only be used on deck one or deck two,but not on master (or both decks at the same time).Is there any EQ plugin available for VDJ that I could set and leave on all night? thanks
 

Posté Wed 26 Dec 12 @ 6:19 pm
You shouldn't need to EQ anything permanently.

The EQ on each mixer channel is for adjusting slight differences in each track, or for use whilst mixing.

If the sound from your system need EQ at all times then you should be looking at the equipment.
 

Hi, if you're a mobile DJ you might get a room that soaks up or boosts certain frequencies by creating 'standing waves' (if the dimensions of the room are a multiple of the wavelength of certain sounds) so a master 16 or 32 band EQ can be very useful...

Short answer, there's no way to do it it Virtual DJ, apart from applying the EQ to both deck 1 and deck 2 at the same time. I use a driverack PA to do my EQ and it's got loads of other handy bits in it too.

http://www.dbxpro.com/en-US/products/driverack-pa

Behringer do a cheaper version I've heard good things about too. http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DCX2496.aspx

There might be a software way to do it, but not easily.
 

you could probably "jack" or "virtual audio cable" the output of VDJ into a DAW of your choice, and use the mastering EQ, compressor and limiter of your choice. Then send the sound directly to the speakers. The task is probably a little to CPU hungry and risky for average laptops though.
 

I have used speaker management processor (rane rpm 26) before.But now I use powered speakers and I am trying to keep my system as small and quick to setup as possible. VDJ is wery good and stabile software now,allowing master effect slot would make it even better.I am sure there are some great EQ,limiter/compressor VST effects available.

Is there any way to apply sound effect on both decks an leave it on even when using other effects ?

 

Yes, in the options page of the config menu in virtual dj I think there's a setting for "re-set effects on load" or something like that. If yo de-activate it then effects will stay on even when you load a new song.

So just activate the effect at the start of the night and it should stay on for the whole gig. Do some testing at home beforehand though as I've heard about some effects causing sound problems if they're activated for more than a few minutes. If that does happen we could look in to finding a VST effect to do the job because the problem doesn't seem to happen with VSTs.

Hope that helps.
 

Also, take care with effects such as brake and backspin. If you stop the song before these have completed (Or there isn't enough time left in the song for brake to complete), then they may remain active and trigger again at the same point in another song.
 

I have a hardware EQ in my sound rack. One of these actually Ultragraph Digital DEQ1024.

Picked one up on ebay for less that £100.

What I like about this EQ is:

  • It's a stereo EQ with only one set of controls - so easier to configure
  • It has a built in feedback destroyer which works great for weddings/karaoke when the mics need to be out front
  • It has a built in limiter so even if some numpty comes up and maxes out all your hardware controls, it won't do any damage to the equipment down the line - also good where the venue has it's own sound limiter so you can set your maximum just below it's cut off


I use this in conjunction with an Ultralink PRO MX882 which works great as I can chose whether each channel is an input or output and when I have used to to control multi room set ups, but also when doing karaoke I plug the my Xenyx 1204FX in to the Ultralink to keep the karaoke mics apart from the MC6000.

Again picked up the MX882 for less than £100 both brand new...

As can be seen here... Have upgraded the mics since...



Cheers,

Roy
 

Yep :-)

Would totaly agree with an offboard Graphic EQ. If for no other reason than a properly sorted software EQ, while usualy very flexible is an additional load on the computer that you just don't need.

As with Roy's setup these are easy to use and can be found at little cost. They dont tend to be heavy items. An added bonus is that most have the option of TRS and XLR balanced inputs and outputs but will accept single ended inputs from sound cards and mixers. You can then keep the single ended signal cables very short and run the more Profesional Balanced Line connections to your Powered Speakers :-) This helps with level matching and reduces the possibility of ground loops/hum and noise pickup problems with the long signal cables needed for powered speakers.

A 1/3rd octave EQ like this has some hidden tricks too. You can apply Verry low Frequency cut ie around the 20hz/30Hz bands to reduce amplifier power consumption/dissipation at frequencies that most speaker systems don't reproduce well (If at all). This can help tighten up the bottom end of your sound and extend amp/speaker life. There is very little usefull bass information below 30Hz appart from special effects in cinema film. But it uses a massive amount of amp power to reproduce anything in this frequency range. Unless you have a very capable and above all huge speaker system its not realy where the sound you want to re-produce is going to be.

The same can be done to a lesser extent right at the top of the frequency range ie 20KHz to help reduce power dissipation in the HF speaker drivers and protect them to some extent from extreme HF/Ultrasonic noise. As mentioned Feedback Control can be implemented by applying small amounts 3 - 6 db max of cut around realy troublesome frequencies.

Try to avoid the usual Smiley Face setting tho. It might sound good to you to start with but realy is not what an EQ is for. General rule is to use as little boost or cut as you can get away with.

Big Thumbs Up :-D

Daz
 

Dazmax wrote :
Try to avoid the usual Smiley Face setting


Agreed and seconded.

Roy, if you're needing that much EQ then there are issues elsewhere in your system.

Maybe your source files are poor, or the mixer is colouring the sound, or the speakers don't produce a balanced sound.

 



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