Xavierrrrr
What are your favorite transitions?
I'm a semi-beginner , so the brake, backspin, and the abrupt end of one song into the beat drop of another song are the ones I use now.
( some tips for more transitions would be greatly appreciated)
I'm a semi-beginner , so the brake, backspin, and the abrupt end of one song into the beat drop of another song are the ones I use now.
( some tips for more transitions would be greatly appreciated)
Posté Sat 02 Nov 13 @ 9:00 pm
Tear Em 'Up
Personally, I don't use transitions. I chose my next song with consideration and blend the beats together properly....
Posté Sat 02 Nov 13 @ 9:40 pm
Xavierrrrr
oh
Posté Sat 02 Nov 13 @ 9:57 pm
groovindj
TearEmUp wrote :
blend the beats together properly....
So the brake, backspin and cold drop/cut are "improper"?
Come on Terry, beat mixing is not the only way to segue.
Posté Sun 03 Nov 13 @ 6:04 am
Tear Em 'Up
I said personally. Please read the entire statement before trying to start something....
Posté Sun 03 Nov 13 @ 7:42 am
groovindj
I'm not "trying to start something" - I'm questioning your statement, namely your use of the word properly.
Personally or not, it doesn't matter. Your use of the word properly implies that doing it any other way is not proper.
When we have beginners like Xavierrrr reading statements like that from experienced DJs, it can confuse rather than educate.
Personally or not, it doesn't matter. Your use of the word properly implies that doing it any other way is not proper.
When we have beginners like Xavierrrr reading statements like that from experienced DJs, it can confuse rather than educate.
Posté Sun 03 Nov 13 @ 7:58 am
Tear Em 'Up
I'm not playing this game with you. Mixing is, personal and, unique to each of us. What works for one, another doesn't like. I strongly suggest you leave it at that and, allow others to respond. Either way, I'm done with this thread.
Posté Sun 03 Nov 13 @ 8:04 am
Jason K
To say one way or the other is the proper, is simply not true.
There is a proper way to do certain styles of transitions, and then there are improper ways to do it.
Phrases:
Most important thing about mixing is learning to hear the phrases of the song. Most songs are broken up into phrases. A phrase is a series of notes that sound complete even when played apart from the main song. (www.musictheory.net). Any mixes that don't follow this rule will often sound off.
Proper use of effects:
Work on using the brake and backspin transitions properly. You still have to count the beats (eventually you will just feel it). Ideally you should brake or backspin at the end of a phrase, and the braking or backspin sound should complete in time for you to drop the new songs first down beat where the old songs next phrase starts.
Harmonic mixing:
If you can't hear the keys of the songs or don't know what keys will sound good with each other use the compatibility filter to get suggests. Mixes typically will always sounds best when both songs are in the same or complimentary key.
Beat matching:
There are tons of ways to bring in a new song if you have matched the tempo. Play with the bass,mid and treble when mixing the two song together. I like to kill the bass of the old song at the beginning of a course and drop the bass from the new song at the same time. then you can used mids to kill vocals and melody, and trade back and forth between the two tracks.
There is a ton of ways to introduce a new track when mixing. The more you learn, the better you will be at determining what will sound best for those two tracks at that moment.
Listen to mix shows and try to figure out how other djs that you like are accomplishing their mixes. Straight blending and beat matching are not always the best way to build energy with a crowd. Abrupt changes can help to maintain the crowds attention, or loose them completely.
Good Luck.
There is a proper way to do certain styles of transitions, and then there are improper ways to do it.
Phrases:
Most important thing about mixing is learning to hear the phrases of the song. Most songs are broken up into phrases. A phrase is a series of notes that sound complete even when played apart from the main song. (www.musictheory.net). Any mixes that don't follow this rule will often sound off.
Proper use of effects:
Work on using the brake and backspin transitions properly. You still have to count the beats (eventually you will just feel it). Ideally you should brake or backspin at the end of a phrase, and the braking or backspin sound should complete in time for you to drop the new songs first down beat where the old songs next phrase starts.
Harmonic mixing:
If you can't hear the keys of the songs or don't know what keys will sound good with each other use the compatibility filter to get suggests. Mixes typically will always sounds best when both songs are in the same or complimentary key.
Beat matching:
There are tons of ways to bring in a new song if you have matched the tempo. Play with the bass,mid and treble when mixing the two song together. I like to kill the bass of the old song at the beginning of a course and drop the bass from the new song at the same time. then you can used mids to kill vocals and melody, and trade back and forth between the two tracks.
There is a ton of ways to introduce a new track when mixing. The more you learn, the better you will be at determining what will sound best for those two tracks at that moment.
Listen to mix shows and try to figure out how other djs that you like are accomplishing their mixes. Straight blending and beat matching are not always the best way to build energy with a crowd. Abrupt changes can help to maintain the crowds attention, or loose them completely.
Good Luck.
Posté Sun 03 Nov 13 @ 1:19 pm
Xavierrrrr
Thanks, I try to beat match songs into another, but I usually don't know what to do to get rid of one song so that I can start playing the other, so I usually just brake or backspin, or just end the song abruptly, I need to practice so I can sort of just blend out one song after the other.
Posté Sun 03 Nov 13 @ 8:01 pm
klausmogensen
Jason K wrote :
Beat matching:
There are tons of ways to bring in a new song if you have matched the tempo. Play with the bass,mid and treble when mixing the two song together.
Beat matching:
There are tons of ways to bring in a new song if you have matched the tempo. Play with the bass,mid and treble when mixing the two song together.
I do this a lot, too
If you don't have long intros (or outros) on the songs you mix (for instance radio edits), you can add a loop to one of them to help you beatmix them. For instance having a 1, 2, 4 or 8 beat loop running on the incoming song (depending on it's structure), mix into the loop, and stop the looping when the mix is done. That way you only have to deal with "running out of time" on the outgoing song
Best regards
Klaus Mogensen
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 12:42 am
groovindj
Xavierrrrr wrote :
what to do to get rid of one song
There's nothing wrong with fading it out. For example, try blending two songs by using the crossfader. As you move it across, it gradually increases the volume on one side, and fades out the volume of the other. You can time this so that the outgoing song disappears completely just as the incoming song kicks in.
You can emulate this using the channel faders too. In fact using the channels faders for blending is (IMO) more versatile.
For example, if you have a song on one side that has an 8 bar percussion break, you can time the start of the next song (e.g. one with an 8 bar intro) so that the outgoing percussion break plays over the intro, but gradually gets quieter as the intro gets louder. then when the new song reaches the vocal, the outgoing percussion is faded out completely.
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 6:10 am
Tim Bennett
I don't think Terry was saying that beat matching was the "proper" way to mix, he was saying that he would consider his tracks and beat match properly, not mix properly by beat matching.
The English language is confusing, it's important to reread and consider the context.
The English language is confusing, it's important to reread and consider the context.
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 10:46 am
groovindj
Well if that's the case, he didn't need to say "properly" at the end at all. His statement would have made perfect sense without it, and I wouldn't have questioned it. He had the opportunity to explain/justify/whatever but got defensive instead.
He also said he didn't use transitions, then said he mixes - which is a type of transition. But I won't go into that. :-)
He also said he didn't use transitions, then said he mixes - which is a type of transition. But I won't go into that. :-)
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 10:55 am
the SOUND INSURGENT
Beatmatch the tracks and ride that mix out is the "proper" way.........
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 11:26 am
Jason K
beatbreaker1 wrote :
Beatmatch the tracks and ride that mix out is the "proper" way.........
Just like Jazzy Jeff does it.
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 12:05 pm
kradcliffe
This is better than watching an episode of Friends!
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 1:44 pm
xcakid
Xavierrrrr wrote :
What are your favorite transitions?
I'm a semi-beginner , so the brake, backspin, and the abrupt end of one song into the beat drop of another song are the ones I use now.
( some tips for more transitions would be greatly appreciated)
I'm a semi-beginner , so the brake, backspin, and the abrupt end of one song into the beat drop of another song are the ones I use now.
( some tips for more transitions would be greatly appreciated)
Really just depends on my mood and the track I am bringing in, but I use the following.
1) All record pools have transition tracks, so I would sometime use those
2) I make my own transitions on Ableton.
3) I loop, slow down the loop and filter out, then drop the track on the 1 beat
4) Echo out
5) Use an acapella to bring a beat in
6) Baby scratch then fader slam the incoming track
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 1:48 pm
jboerlage
@Xavierrrrr
Soooooooooo by now you know we all feel different about the whole thing :P
And yes there are several techniques as mentioned in the replies, try mastering them and with that knowledge its up to you to get creative in applying them to your transitions. Combine, experiment to create your own style and signature.
Soooooooooo by now you know we all feel different about the whole thing :P
And yes there are several techniques as mentioned in the replies, try mastering them and with that knowledge its up to you to get creative in applying them to your transitions. Combine, experiment to create your own style and signature.
Posté Mon 04 Nov 13 @ 2:33 pm
anirudhh09
Hey guy's!
Okay good question about transitioning!
Well the easiest method is to use the starting beats of the second track and the drop of the first track!
The idea is to gradually automate(physically using the volume knob) of the beats of the second track being played on the drop of the first track!
Once the drop comes to the second break, make sure to use the low/high filter to cut down the first track!
Make sure to cut down the low frequency of the first track while blending it with the second track!
This way your bass won't sound off key!
Anyways that's the tricky method, but it really works well for me!
Second method is by using the ending beats of the first track and starting beats of the second track!
Start automating the tracks by using the volume knobs of each track!
You may use effects too!
Well that's all the info I have, good luck to you
Okay good question about transitioning!
Well the easiest method is to use the starting beats of the second track and the drop of the first track!
The idea is to gradually automate(physically using the volume knob) of the beats of the second track being played on the drop of the first track!
Once the drop comes to the second break, make sure to use the low/high filter to cut down the first track!
Make sure to cut down the low frequency of the first track while blending it with the second track!
This way your bass won't sound off key!
Anyways that's the tricky method, but it really works well for me!
Second method is by using the ending beats of the first track and starting beats of the second track!
Start automating the tracks by using the volume knobs of each track!
You may use effects too!
Well that's all the info I have, good luck to you
Posté Fri 26 Jan 18 @ 9:29 am
wildcountryclub
you dug up a 5 year old thread to comment on that NO ONE has been using in all this time...
astounding isn't the word i'm looking for...
astounding isn't the word i'm looking for...
Posté Fri 26 Jan 18 @ 1:31 pm
