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I'm not familiar with time code but I just tried with the custom buttons and 'grabbing' the record and I think it works how you'll like.
 
Having a similar set up and having a button both turn up the strength and switch on the mute source button (native echo effect) would do you even better as you could roll out of the effect
 
ok im getting what your saying another thing since its not post fader, when there are times i might need to activate the effect and load a track before the echoes stop, i cant because it will stop the effect, right?
 
I'm guessing using the effect on the master is out, and switching to the 4 deck skin quickly, cloning the deck, stopping the usual deck, applying the effect on the clone and switching the skin back is too much of a headache. (possible with script)

If you turn off FXresetOnLoad off you can switch tracks, but having the new track contaminate the echo might be a problem (then again it might sound good)
I think a variable cycling might do what you want (with FXreset off)
1 button
1st press echo active with strength down
2nd press, strength up, source muted
[you change the track here]
3rd press, un mute the source, strength down so echo starts to fade *turn the echo length up, reduce the bpm of the new track by several 1/2s* (this is so the new track doesn't contaminate the echo)
4th press effect off, bpm corrected.

It's possible but getting it sounding sweet requires tinkering.

Try this, you get some echo contamination but it's not bad, I'll have another shot at it.
cycle "echo_Var" 4 & var_equal "echo_Var" 1 ? effect_active 'echo' & effect_slider 'echo' 1 0% & effect_slider 'echo' 2 62.5% : var_equal "echo_Var" 2 ? effect_slider 'echo' 1 100% & effect_button 'echo' 1 : var_equal "echo_Var" 3 ? effect_slider 'echo' 1 75% & effect_button 'echo' 1 & set_bpm 6.25% : var_equal "echo_Var" 0 ? effect_active 'echo' & set_bpm 1600% : nothing
 
For 1 button with multiple presses this is the best I've figured
1 press primes it, 2nd starts the echo and mutes the source. (you change track here) 3rd unmutes the source and starts the echo to decay, (start the new track here you have 8 beats before it contaminates the loop) 4th makes the decay speed up, 5th switches it off
If you can nominate a dial to the strength you'll need a bit or a rewrite but you'll get better (smother) results.

cycle "echo_Var" 5 & var_equal "echo_Var" 1 ? effect_active 'echo' & effect_slider 'echo' 1 0% & effect_slider 'echo' 2 70% : var_equal "echo_Var" 2 ? effect_slider 'echo' 1 100% & effect_button 'echo' 1 : var_equal "echo_Var" 3 ? effect_slider 'echo' 1 75% & effect_button 'echo' 1 & effect_slider 'echo' 2 100% : var_equal "echo_Var" 4 ? effect_slider 'echo' 1 49% : var_equal "echo_Var" 0 ? effect_active 'echo' : nothing
 
whew thats a lot...Come on VDJ lets get professional and do post fader effects for us performance djs...thanks loco thats to many presses leave room for major error.
 
Press 3 presses is the best I can manage with it sounding right and tbh only press 2 is time critical (when you want the effect to take over) , 1 is at any time in the track, 3 is when you start the next track
I had a method with 2 presses but unloading the track screws it up.
I'm happy because I've sussed cycling variables, (my keyboard just got busier and my controller layout design just got more confusing)
Post fader won't erase the echo contamination from playing a new track on a channel that has echo in effect,
if echo had a % input dial that would help, (and give a rebirth to the over loop effect, not as good as before but still :-) )

I agree with post fader effects, routing effects to other channels or channels bypassing master effects sentiment,
 
not if its more of a send type open and close



Listen to the transitions

he loads the deck and the echo still holds...send type
 
Aye % input, In my wettest sloppiest dreams there's a special key combo in VDJ and you can (like Reason) get to the back of the mixer and wire it up yourself

Just out of interest how long (how many beats to loop & how many loops to near silence do you want this loop out effect to have?, because for longer beat numbers (2,4,8) this works really well (even if you are a bit hammered.

*edit listened to* try http://www.vstplanet.com/Effects/Delay3.htm mountain echo, the TAL on might be worth a look too (TAL are solid)
 
 
actually im more like 1/8, 1/4. 1/2 and 1beat... 4 to 8 trails
 
And yes you can activate the stock echo and load another track but it will pick up the new track also..........
 
 
 
Ok I'll set up my stuff and try something's out tomorrow. Your mixer is only 2 channels right??
 
yep
 


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