picudodj
hey guys any idea in how to map the filter fade effect from pioneer ddj sb on to another controller thanks
Posté Thu 19 Feb 15 @ 5:48 pm
locoDog
Filter fade FX? which addon is that?
Posté Thu 19 Feb 15 @ 6:13 pm
picudodj
If you look at the functions on you tube the controller has a filter fade effect when you are cross fading this can be done on dj because uses filter effect but i dont know the mapping transcript
Posté Thu 19 Feb 15 @ 7:16 pm
locoDog
Oh yeah I remember that, try this on the crossfader mapping
crossfader & param_bigger 50% ? deck 1 filter : param_invert & deck 2 filter
crossfader & param_bigger 50% ? deck 1 filter : param_invert & deck 2 filter
Posté Thu 19 Feb 15 @ 7:54 pm
groovindj
Yes that works - but I personally think it would be more effective if the filter kicked in way earlier. Maybe 10-20%?
As it is, the effect of the filter kinda gets lost under the audio from the other track coming in.
As it is, the effect of the filter kinda gets lost under the audio from the other track coming in.
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 4:20 am
locoDog
10/20% that's tricky I'll have to think about that
This one is from 0%
crossfader & param_invert & param_multiply 50% & param_invert & deck 1 filter & param_invert & param_add 50% & deck 2 filter
This one is from 0%
crossfader & param_invert & param_multiply 50% & param_invert & deck 1 filter & param_invert & param_add 50% & deck 2 filter
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 5:53 am
groovindj
That one's better but it activates the filter on both sides, so the crossfade sounds really thin because there's no bass on either track.
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 6:00 am
locoDog
Hmm... there is the stupidly long way - quizzing every % of the crossfader between 20% & 80%
pondering....
pondering....
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 6:35 am
groovindj
Don't concern yourself on my account. It's not something I'd use. If OP is happy then all is well.
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 7:13 am
locoDog
You know I'm not that kind of dog :-)
There's this one that kicks in across the middle 2/4's
crossfader & param_bigger 25% ? param_smaller 75% ? param_invert & param_add -25% & param_invert & deck 1 filter & param_invert & param_add 50% & deck 2 filter : deck 2 filter 50% & deck 1 filter 100% : deck 1 filter 50% & deck 2 filter 100%
This one kicks in in the end 1/4's I think this is the most likely
crossfader & param_smaller 25% ? param_multiply 200% & deck 2 filter : param_bigger 75% ? param_add -50% & param_multiply 200% & deck 1 filter : nothing
There's this one that kicks in across the middle 2/4's
crossfader & param_bigger 25% ? param_smaller 75% ? param_invert & param_add -25% & param_invert & deck 1 filter & param_invert & param_add 50% & deck 2 filter : deck 2 filter 50% & deck 1 filter 100% : deck 1 filter 50% & deck 2 filter 100%
This one kicks in in the end 1/4's I think this is the most likely
crossfader & param_smaller 25% ? param_multiply 200% & deck 2 filter : param_bigger 75% ? param_add -50% & param_multiply 200% & deck 1 filter : nothing
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 8:09 am
picudodj
Thanks i will try it but only one more question I dont want to use this effect every time i cross fade how can i map a button to activate and deactivate this function thanks
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 9:58 am
PachN
If your Controller has a Shift button, chances are good, that there is already a $shift variable.
So just test this:
$shift ? crossfader & param_smaller 25% ? param_multiply 200% & deck 2 filter : param_bigger 75% ? param_add -50% & param_multiply 200% & deck 1 filter : nothing : crossfader
So just test this:
$shift ? crossfader & param_smaller 25% ? param_multiply 200% & deck 2 filter : param_bigger 75% ? param_add -50% & param_multiply 200% & deck 1 filter : nothing : crossfader
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 10:01 am
locoDog
Ooops a small mistake on my part
var '$Shift' ? crossfader & param_smaller 25% ? param_multiply 200% & param_invert & deck 2 filter : param_bigger 75% ? param_add -50% & param_multiply 200% & deck 1 filter : nothing : crossfader
var '$Shift' ? crossfader & param_smaller 25% ? param_multiply 200% & param_invert & deck 2 filter : param_bigger 75% ? param_add -50% & param_multiply 200% & deck 1 filter : nothing : crossfader
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 11:42 am
groovindj
Hmmm..... I think the 2/4 one is better than the 1/4 one (the filter there comes in too late).
Dunno how these would be affected by the chosen crossfader curve.
Dunno how these would be affected by the chosen crossfader curve.
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 2:17 pm
locoDog
I like the critical thinking, let's explore this idea,
The vids of the pioneer XFfilter don't show enough tbh, how about HW users throw some ideas out.
I personally feel like this Scripted FX is a 1 in 20, (in relation to how often it would be used) BUT it's still a decent idea. so what do you think it should be?
e.g.
the end 1/4's script behaves like so,
Between XF 0% to 25% deck 2 filter = 100% to 50%,
Between XF 75% to 100% = deck 1 filter = 50% to 100%
The vids of the pioneer XFfilter don't show enough tbh, how about HW users throw some ideas out.
I personally feel like this Scripted FX is a 1 in 20, (in relation to how often it would be used) BUT it's still a decent idea. so what do you think it should be?
e.g.
the end 1/4's script behaves like so,
Between XF 0% to 25% deck 2 filter = 100% to 50%,
Between XF 75% to 100% = deck 1 filter = 50% to 100%
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 3:18 pm
groovindj
I think part of the problem may be that as the lows are being filtered out, the filtered track gets considerable quieter - and so "loses out" to the incoming one as the crossfader moves over. The level of that outgoing track is basically being reduced twice - once by the crossfader and again by the HPF.
This is one reason why I don't like using the crossfader. You're not as in control of the levels.
If I was doing this manually on my Xone:92 I'd be using upfaders only and adjusting levels on the fly.
This is one reason why I don't like using the crossfader. You're not as in control of the levels.
If I was doing this manually on my Xone:92 I'd be using upfaders only and adjusting levels on the fly.
Posté Fri 20 Feb 15 @ 3:26 pm
picudodj
Thanks for the help guys
Posté Sat 21 Feb 15 @ 5:45 am
groovindj
Did you try it?
Posté Sat 21 Feb 15 @ 5:53 am
locoDog
groovindj wrote :
I think part of the problem may be that as the lows are being filtered out, the filtered track gets considerable quieter - and so "loses out" to the incoming one as the crossfader moves over. The level of that outgoing track is basically being reduced twice - once by the crossfader and again by the HPF.
This is one reason why I don't like using the crossfader. You're not as in control of the levels.
This is one reason why I don't like using the crossfader. You're not as in control of the levels.
I'm the same, most of the time I use the gate(s), I usually have the XF on a scratch curve and use it for cutting up.
Posté Sat 21 Feb 15 @ 6:09 am
lack1
Anybody ever figure this out?
Posté Mon 07 Nov 16 @ 10:09 pm
