djkizzle
Does anyone feel guilty about using the sync feature in VDJ? As a professional working Dj who prides himself at his abilities to blend and mix tracks, I get a nauseating pit in my stomach thinking about how easy it is to now do something that many of us had to work hard to develop. I've read the posts, and I understand everyone's point of view. Why walk when you can drive, and you are all right. I believe it is important to never forget the art of manually mixing. Gentlemen, what will set apart the men from the boys is no longer how well you can blend, or even manipulate songs. Now it all comes down to song selection, and at private and corporate events...Emcee skills. Good luck men, and lets not allow "laptop bedroom djs" take over because their computer will mix for 'em.
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 12:39 am
phillydj
No worries
Many Oldschool Dj's already have a reputation and have there own client list already established
Also theres plenty of parties that are willing to pay more to see real turntablism.
Many Oldschool Dj's already have a reputation and have there own client list already established
Also theres plenty of parties that are willing to pay more to see real turntablism.
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 12:45 am
Timmyg1978
I tend to look at beatlock and sync as tools to learn beat matching. After watching where the pitch slider goes using sync for a while you start to get a better feel for matching the tempos. Of course it doesn't do much good if you don't take some time to ignore the bpm counter and sync to do it manualy, but it's a great learning tool in learning to master the tempo along the way;^]
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 1:08 am
TopHouse
Look at it this way, it's a tool, if it's in the hands of an amateur, they're just a well equipped amateur. Is a Joiner/Carpenter any less because he uses a cordless drill?
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 1:31 am
djkizzle
well put tophouse. we are masters of our craft, tools will bring amateurs up to a new level, but we will use tools to advance even more!
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 1:40 am
socross
Honestly, I can't understand the paranoia that surrounds automatic beatmatching. Some DJ's seem to think that if beatmatching is so easy, then EVERYONE will suddenly be DJ'ing at the clubs, making it harder for the "real" DJ's to get work.
Folks, there is SO MUCH MORE to DJing than beatmatching. That is just one small, yet vitally important facet of it. The true art of DJing has been, and always will be, filling the floor up with people by playing great music and mixing it in cool ways. It's about reading the energy on the dance floor, leading it and sometimes following it. It's about manipulating that energy to keep the party going all night. Automatic beatmatching helps this by giving us more time to watch the dancers, and more time to search for more songs to play.
Learning how to do this takes a lot - it takes listening to all sorts of music all the time, it takes hours of practice, and it takes actually DJing for a dance floor - in short, it takes dedication. We do this because we love to, and that is something no program can do for us.
So when a vinyl DJ looks down his nose at me, I just smile. It's not worth arguing about. I have the knowledge that I too have rocked the dance floor, and that's enough for me.
Folks, there is SO MUCH MORE to DJing than beatmatching. That is just one small, yet vitally important facet of it. The true art of DJing has been, and always will be, filling the floor up with people by playing great music and mixing it in cool ways. It's about reading the energy on the dance floor, leading it and sometimes following it. It's about manipulating that energy to keep the party going all night. Automatic beatmatching helps this by giving us more time to watch the dancers, and more time to search for more songs to play.
Learning how to do this takes a lot - it takes listening to all sorts of music all the time, it takes hours of practice, and it takes actually DJing for a dance floor - in short, it takes dedication. We do this because we love to, and that is something no program can do for us.
So when a vinyl DJ looks down his nose at me, I just smile. It's not worth arguing about. I have the knowledge that I too have rocked the dance floor, and that's enough for me.
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 1:53 am
Chris Davis
Also overlooked is our ears. I have been DJing for 29 years and work 2 nights per week. Why I love beatmatch is that my headphone use is greatly reduced. With loud sound systems and therefore louder heaphones, after 29 years there are a few frequencies missing.
If you are a young DJ and still have your hearing, use beatmatch and keep your hearing. Also don't get sucked into only using one side of the headphones. Put them on your head over both ears, then turn the headphone volume down so you can hear the house system through them too. The resulting lower headphone volume will be better for you long term.
For me after 29 years....what did you say? LOL :-)
If you are a young DJ and still have your hearing, use beatmatch and keep your hearing. Also don't get sucked into only using one side of the headphones. Put them on your head over both ears, then turn the headphone volume down so you can hear the house system through them too. The resulting lower headphone volume will be better for you long term.
For me after 29 years....what did you say? LOL :-)
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 4:22 am
digijoc-Mele
@kizzle, I think you got your answer.
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 5:38 am
Timmyg1978
Heh, once upon a time inorder to put on a concert you had to have a a stage with a design that would use acoustics to push the sound forward, pretty much the only option. Then came electricity and soon enough electric amplification. This can be related to beat matching pretty easily, the priority for such acoustics declined but still did not become obsolete. I think the same will hold true in the future of beat matching, yes the need to know how to do it manualy decreases but it's still a good thing to know and will serve you well as a DJ.
I agree to that there's alot more to it than beat matching also, ultimatly in my humble opinion, I think creativity (just as in any other form of music making) is the most important thing, though that's not to say all other factors aren't important, but a DJ's creativity is what really seperates him or her from all the rest in the end;^]
I agree to that there's alot more to it than beat matching also, ultimatly in my humble opinion, I think creativity (just as in any other form of music making) is the most important thing, though that's not to say all other factors aren't important, but a DJ's creativity is what really seperates him or her from all the rest in the end;^]
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 6:48 am
djkizzle
All very true guys, thank you, I can rest easy tonight!
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 9:20 am
djsherz
Besides, you still need to know how to beatmatch manually - VDJ doesn't always get it spot in, sometimes it takes some "old school" manual intervention to make things sound right, especially for those tracks where the pitch drifts a little...
Posté Thu 19 Oct 06 @ 4:44 pm