In Virtual DJ, is it possible to get true 48kHz or 96kHz PCM output when you play music and/or MPEG video files with audio tracks recorded at those sampling rates and using a sound card with those capabilities?
Posté Wed 21 Nov 07 @ 5:57 pm
no.
Posté Wed 21 Nov 07 @ 8:48 pm
Thanks, was looking for the place to specify it, but could only get 44.1kHz output to my E-MU.
I think this would be a great feature to add internal 48 & 96kHz processing options for Virtual DJ and us with high end sound cards.
I think this would be a great feature to add internal 48 & 96kHz processing options for Virtual DJ and us with high end sound cards.
Posté Sun 23 Dec 07 @ 10:48 pm
At least nowadays the downsampling doesn't suck like it used to...
I play a lot of 48 KHz stuff from DVD, etc, so this could be a valid feature. Of course most music comes on 44.1 KHz CDs. I suppose some guys might try to record their vinyl at higher sampling rates than that...
I play a lot of 48 KHz stuff from DVD, etc, so this could be a valid feature. Of course most music comes on 44.1 KHz CDs. I suppose some guys might try to record their vinyl at higher sampling rates than that...
Posté Mon 24 Dec 07 @ 12:54 am
Supacon wrote :
At least nowadays the downsampling doesn't suck like it used to...
I play a lot of 48 KHz stuff from DVD, etc, so this could be a valid feature. Of course most music comes on 44.1 KHz CDs. I suppose some guys might try to record their vinyl at higher sampling rates than that...
I play a lot of 48 KHz stuff from DVD, etc, so this could be a valid feature. Of course most music comes on 44.1 KHz CDs. I suppose some guys might try to record their vinyl at higher sampling rates than that...
I agree. Even though Djs in general have to make compromises between quality and size
with digital technology, as a professional audio software it should be able to reproduce
higher sampling rates and bit rates.
Posté Mon 24 Dec 07 @ 4:12 am
hmm... i agree higher sample rates would be a good feature for vdj... but, i dont really agree with the argument.
djing on the road is about streamlining. playing 96khz/32-bit floating-point recordings is overkill which is lost on the output. in that sense, its not exactly true pro audio... but then again, i used to gig live with a protools rig, 15 pieces of gear, stands and miles of cable. was a huge task. then ableton live came out and i scoffed it 'lame ass, no energy watching a guy with a mouse and laptop....'. then i tried ableton one night cuz i didnt have the energy to bring my gear and it was a lame party which i had to do anyway. ableton was such a dream plugging two cords in and the power...
dont get me wrong though, it should be added. technology is always pushing the envelope. but what i'd love to see at the same time is a new redbook format which makes normal commercial audio cds higher that 44.1 khz as well...
but its a good start to do it in something like vdj.
djing on the road is about streamlining. playing 96khz/32-bit floating-point recordings is overkill which is lost on the output. in that sense, its not exactly true pro audio... but then again, i used to gig live with a protools rig, 15 pieces of gear, stands and miles of cable. was a huge task. then ableton live came out and i scoffed it 'lame ass, no energy watching a guy with a mouse and laptop....'. then i tried ableton one night cuz i didnt have the energy to bring my gear and it was a lame party which i had to do anyway. ableton was such a dream plugging two cords in and the power...
dont get me wrong though, it should be added. technology is always pushing the envelope. but what i'd love to see at the same time is a new redbook format which makes normal commercial audio cds higher that 44.1 khz as well...
but its a good start to do it in something like vdj.
Posté Mon 24 Dec 07 @ 6:41 am
Paz75 wrote :
i dont really agree with the argument.
Of course 44.1 / 16 is enough for 95% of cases. But my argument is that having the ability
to play higher sampling and bitrates makes the software more professional. It could happen
that you have a file, or maybe a DVD with high quality audio, and it's more convenient to just
plug'n'play (so to speak) rather than convert it to 44.1/16 while gigging.
Personally I like VDj as it comes handy for quick comparison between certain audio signals.
Giving me the ability to play higher qualities would be a definite improvement.
Posté Mon 24 Dec 07 @ 8:31 am
heh, cant disagree with that : )
Posté Mon 24 Dec 07 @ 9:24 am
IMO a modern audio engine should at least support 48KHz/24bit playback. Most serious audio hardware uses that as default ad many sources like DVD audio are using that format. higher sample rates would only make sense if the software allows integration of external stuff like with ReWire..
But then again, for most places where ppl use VDJ 160kb/s mp3s would be fine. You average powered speaker system won't sound any better..
But then again, for most places where ppl use VDJ 160kb/s mp3s would be fine. You average powered speaker system won't sound any better..
Posté Mon 24 Dec 07 @ 10:36 am
where are you getting 96K music from again?
or is it stuff you are producing yourself?
when / if SACD DVDA catches on half decently then higher output rates will make sense
until then the only problem is the 48 > 44.1 problem we have when mixing with vobs etc
and that has been taken care of quite nicely with the improved resampling
i think its better to downsample the odd 48k track than to upsample all your normal material
or is it stuff you are producing yourself?
when / if SACD DVDA catches on half decently then higher output rates will make sense
until then the only problem is the 48 > 44.1 problem we have when mixing with vobs etc
and that has been taken care of quite nicely with the improved resampling
i think its better to downsample the odd 48k track than to upsample all your normal material
Posté Mon 24 Dec 07 @ 9:36 pm