macheted01
I have been running into more and more places that do not pay ASCAP, such as Bar & Grills that just play satelite radio. They are booking entertainment though, such as myself. I have not did a gig here yet. I was wondering how much it cost to get myself covered by ASCAP? I never worried about this in the past. The places I worked at were always covered and when it came to playing videos, their attitude was, will worry about that later if we get in any kind of trouble. I wouild like to avoid any kind of fines at all costs. I browsed around on ASCAPs website, but most my questions go unanswered without contacting them. Also, even if I am covered by ASCAP would it be o.k. that the establishment is not. And what about having everything stored on the hard drive such as mp3, mp3g's and mpeg's. You would think that this would be o.k. since this is where the future is heading anyways. So before I try and contact ASCAP I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge on this, I will be grateful for any reply's. Thanks.
Posté Tue 22 Apr 08 @ 9:37 am
cstoll
It is the responsibility of the Venue. And regardless of how they are providing entertainment - satellite radio, live bands, DJs, etc. They are required to pay the necessary fees to ASCAP, BMI, and/or SESAC.
I have this in writing from all three licensing organizations -- a simple email to each inquiring how "I" a mobile DJ needed to protect myself got the reply above. Btw, none of them have a Mobile DJ licensing program, hence the requirement of the venue.
I have this in writing from all three licensing organizations -- a simple email to each inquiring how "I" a mobile DJ needed to protect myself got the reply above. Btw, none of them have a Mobile DJ licensing program, hence the requirement of the venue.
Posté Tue 22 Apr 08 @ 10:50 am
DJ_JAMIN_JIM
18 years and still askiong the same old Qustion ASCAP OR NO ASCAP !!!
i have been work in Small Bars and Grills for over 18 years and they all have Ascap or BMI if they have a jukebox i don't know about XM radio stuff none of them have that here yet maybe soon buy i would think it would be the same thing anytime your playing music over the Pa Systems you should Have a ASCAP I don't have one never had too just let the bar owners deal with that...
DJ Jamin Jim
Lasertunes entertainment\
www.myspace.com/djjim65
i have been work in Small Bars and Grills for over 18 years and they all have Ascap or BMI if they have a jukebox i don't know about XM radio stuff none of them have that here yet maybe soon buy i would think it would be the same thing anytime your playing music over the Pa Systems you should Have a ASCAP I don't have one never had too just let the bar owners deal with that...
DJ Jamin Jim
Lasertunes entertainment\
www.myspace.com/djjim65
Posté Tue 22 Apr 08 @ 12:53 pm
DJ TAO of TAOTRONX
It is the Venue's job to hold have the proper ASCAP/BMI/SESAC coverage and not the hired disc jockey!
Posté Tue 22 Apr 08 @ 2:05 pm
A Man and His Music
All above answers are correct, and you need not worry about this any more. you can put this puppy to bed.
Posté Tue 22 Apr 08 @ 2:10 pm
DJJaE
Hey folks, digging up this thread instead of starting a new one :) My boss at the place I spin was telling me about SESAC and how they keep sending him stuff about licensing fees. He said they already pay ASCAP, wondering what the difference between the two are? Looks the same to me. If anyone can shine some light, thanks:).
Edit to post link, found a site which pretty much explains it ok. http://www.musicbizadvice.com/sesac_license_concerns.htm
If anyone else needs in the future :) Sorta sucks but meh what can you do.
Edit to post link, found a site which pretty much explains it ok. http://www.musicbizadvice.com/sesac_license_concerns.htm
If anyone else needs in the future :) Sorta sucks but meh what can you do.
Posté Tue 06 Apr 10 @ 7:26 pm
cstoll
Though the link you provide is partially correct ... I would consider the info from the SESAC site more definitive ...
http://www.sesac.com/Licensing/FAQsGeneral.aspx
Under the question about - "If I have a license with ASCAP and/or BMI, why do I need a license with SESAC?"
"A: SESAC, ASCAP, and BMI are three separate and distinct Performing Rights Organizations (PRO). Each organization represents different copyright holders (songwriters, composers, publishers) and licenses only the copyrighted works of its own respective copyright holders. Licenses with ASCAP and BMI DO NOT grant you authorization to use the copyrighted music of SESAC represented songwriters, composers and publishers.
Since a license with ASCAP and/or BMI does not grant authorization to publically perform songs in the SESAC repertory, most businesses obtain licenses with all three to obtain proper copyright clearance for virtually all of the copyrighted music in the world."
SESAC use to be predominately Country artist, but with every company if you want to expand your market share you can't stick with 1 product. So they have expanded ... and if SESAC is sending 'gentle' suggestions then I would consider signing up and paying the fee, before the gentle suggestion comes in the form of a court document.
http://www.sesac.com/Licensing/FAQsGeneral.aspx
Under the question about - "If I have a license with ASCAP and/or BMI, why do I need a license with SESAC?"
"A: SESAC, ASCAP, and BMI are three separate and distinct Performing Rights Organizations (PRO). Each organization represents different copyright holders (songwriters, composers, publishers) and licenses only the copyrighted works of its own respective copyright holders. Licenses with ASCAP and BMI DO NOT grant you authorization to use the copyrighted music of SESAC represented songwriters, composers and publishers.
Since a license with ASCAP and/or BMI does not grant authorization to publically perform songs in the SESAC repertory, most businesses obtain licenses with all three to obtain proper copyright clearance for virtually all of the copyrighted music in the world."
SESAC use to be predominately Country artist, but with every company if you want to expand your market share you can't stick with 1 product. So they have expanded ... and if SESAC is sending 'gentle' suggestions then I would consider signing up and paying the fee, before the gentle suggestion comes in the form of a court document.
Posté Tue 06 Apr 10 @ 8:40 pm
DJJaE
I think he would rather omit songs than have to pay another fee. I looked to see who are some of the performers/writers etc.,. that are signed on. Guess my playlist will be shorter and hurt the business. I don't see why these 3 just form up into one, but guess they would lose out on money. Ugh.
Posté Tue 06 Apr 10 @ 8:50 pm