DJCannonball
you said it yourself: Easy analog-L.I.K.E. control of software mixer. it's still software controled (which does have latancy)
so.. i'm pretty convinced it is just another brother of the Hercules DJConsole... i'm afraid.
so.. i'm pretty convinced it is just another brother of the Hercules DJConsole... i'm afraid.
Posté Fri 21 Jan 05 @ 1:22 pm
pern
It looks like that the Behringer B-Control series is 100% MIDI and software based , as far as i can see :(
http://www.behringer.com/02_products/b-control_index.cfm?lang=ENG
But, i guess i will buy one anyway.
http://www.behringer.com/02_products/b-control_index.cfm?lang=ENG
But, i guess i will buy one anyway.
Posté Fri 21 Jan 05 @ 1:46 pm
WirelessDJ
I believe the latency of the HDC is the software not the controllers. I have noticed it with all the controllers.
I love my hercules DJ console because of the all-in-one functionality. I carry a laptop and the HDC and that is it!
if automix gets a hold of a behringer, hopefully they will add naitive support into VDJ it would be great! If not, I will still be able to use it with Traktor and Reflex
I love my hercules DJ console because of the all-in-one functionality. I carry a laptop and the HDC and that is it!
if automix gets a hold of a behringer, hopefully they will add naitive support into VDJ it would be great! If not, I will still be able to use it with Traktor and Reflex
Posté Fri 21 Jan 05 @ 2:06 pm
DJCannonball
Ofcourse it is the software which causes the latency!
like i said, this behringer console has software controled sliders, just like the hercules console. That's why i'm sure it will have a latency, just like the Hercules console.
I'm just trying to make a statement here:
Software controled = Latency
and one other thing: i've seen the oher pictures, it has no MIDI-connections at all. so i don't know where those stories came from. How can it support Midi-functions without having one single MIDI-connector?
like i said, this behringer console has software controled sliders, just like the hercules console. That's why i'm sure it will have a latency, just like the Hercules console.
I'm just trying to make a statement here:
Software controled = Latency
and one other thing: i've seen the oher pictures, it has no MIDI-connections at all. so i don't know where those stories came from. How can it support Midi-functions without having one single MIDI-connector?
Posté Fri 21 Jan 05 @ 2:31 pm
pern
re MIDI.
It was just a guess that that the players where MIDI-controlled since this is the normal way to solve it. And the B-Control products on that link is MIDI based.
But if you read the press release for the product there is nothing about MIDI:
http://behringer-download.com/_pdf/PRESS_RELEASES_NAMM_2005/DJ_PRODUCTS/B-CONTROL_DEEJAY_BCD2000.pdf
Then it will be really hard to get it working with VDJ if Atomix don't add support for it.
It was just a guess that that the players where MIDI-controlled since this is the normal way to solve it. And the B-Control products on that link is MIDI based.
But if you read the press release for the product there is nothing about MIDI:
http://behringer-download.com/_pdf/PRESS_RELEASES_NAMM_2005/DJ_PRODUCTS/B-CONTROL_DEEJAY_BCD2000.pdf
Then it will be really hard to get it working with VDJ if Atomix don't add support for it.
Posté Fri 21 Jan 05 @ 2:54 pm
DJCannonball
Why would it be hard to work with if Atomix don't add support for what.. MIDI?
i don't need it for live-mixing.
MIDI= Musical Instrument Digital Interface.
it is used by synths, drummingdevices, samplers and sequencers to exchange information about notes and stuff.
In fact.. the only controls you need is your dialjog, pithslider and your cue & play buttons. That's all you need man. All of the other extra sliders/knobs would be nice -> if they had no latency! ;-)
i don't need it for live-mixing.
MIDI= Musical Instrument Digital Interface.
it is used by synths, drummingdevices, samplers and sequencers to exchange information about notes and stuff.
In fact.. the only controls you need is your dialjog, pithslider and your cue & play buttons. That's all you need man. All of the other extra sliders/knobs would be nice -> if they had no latency! ;-)
Posté Fri 21 Jan 05 @ 3:58 pm
WirelessDJ
because it doesnt have MIDI connector (the 5 pin DIN) does not mean it is not mIDI
it is USB with a midi driver
it is USB with a midi driver
Posté Sat 22 Jan 05 @ 1:23 am
idj4u
There is a similar discussion going on at DJ Chat. The resident Behringer rep had this to say (live from NAMM)
1. Right now, the software will work with any windows based DJ programs. It will be mac compatible before it ships (estimated as late 2nd quarter).
2. We're working on having rack ears included.
There will be more next week when he's back from the show.
1. Right now, the software will work with any windows based DJ programs. It will be mac compatible before it ships (estimated as late 2nd quarter).
2. We're working on having rack ears included.
There will be more next week when he's back from the show.
Posté Sat 22 Jan 05 @ 2:04 am
swarrine
Just ask yourself are there enough inputs and outputs? (Weak on both if you ask me).
The knobs look cheesy. I don't know about this mixer. I would give it a 5 out of 10 from looks alone.
The knobs look cheesy. I don't know about this mixer. I would give it a 5 out of 10 from looks alone.
Posté Sat 22 Jan 05 @ 6:00 am
who cares what it looks like.. as long as it works well and sounds good.
everyone is judging this thing off a website with little to no real information.
everyone is judging this thing off a website with little to no real information.
Posté Sat 22 Jan 05 @ 6:16 am
WirelessDJ
I am buying one
Posté Sat 22 Jan 05 @ 1:33 pm
DJ Walkers
i will probably buy one and in my opinion it looks alot nicer than the hecules console
Posté Sat 22 Jan 05 @ 5:25 pm
DJCannonball
Wireless, you already said that ;) we know you will buy one.
that's great so you can test it for us :-D
that's great so you can test it for us :-D
Posté Sun 23 Jan 05 @ 12:11 pm
WirelessDJ
I am buying one!
Actually, If someone could figure way to add real click switches to the Hercules DJ console I would be content with with keeping it. The damn thing is a pain sometimes to start/stop and messes up my mixes.
Rubber crap calculator buttons suck
Rubber crap calculator buttons suck
Rubber crap calculator buttons suck
hehe
Actually, If someone could figure way to add real click switches to the Hercules DJ console I would be content with with keeping it. The damn thing is a pain sometimes to start/stop and messes up my mixes.
Rubber crap calculator buttons suck
Rubber crap calculator buttons suck
Rubber crap calculator buttons suck
hehe
Posté Sun 23 Jan 05 @ 4:13 pm
tunic
I agree re: buttons on Herc - tis why I started looking at the alternatives. Have now settled for CDJs + Time Coded CDs.
Posté Sun 23 Jan 05 @ 4:24 pm
WirelessDJ
there has to be a way to solder click buttons on this thing
Posté Sun 23 Jan 05 @ 4:30 pm
apopsisdj
I have the same problem, i'm thinking to open small holes to pass the cables and glue microswitches
near or on top of the existing buttons.
near or on top of the existing buttons.
Posté Sun 23 Jan 05 @ 9:20 pm
Real_DJFunGus
I was actually thinking the same thing, opening up that sucker, and see what alternatives i have to these stupid rubber no good buttons :)
Posté Sun 23 Jan 05 @ 11:21 pm
apopsisdj
I open it already once, to fix the jogs (so sensitive - easy to move)
By puting some rubber inside.. they have better feel now..
Beware the white rubber buttons are all one piece and not separated.
I mean there is one membrane (or one for each deck..) and carbon contacts in the mainboard.
P.S. we are a little "of topic" here..
By puting some rubber inside.. they have better feel now..
Beware the white rubber buttons are all one piece and not separated.
I mean there is one membrane (or one for each deck..) and carbon contacts in the mainboard.
P.S. we are a little "of topic" here..
Posté Mon 24 Jan 05 @ 1:34 am
nitebeatdisco
Got a DMC 1 from my pcdj days!
This unit looks great, hope virtual dj adds support for this one.
This unit looks great, hope virtual dj adds support for this one.
Posté Tue 25 Jan 05 @ 1:18 pm
