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Sujet Does the paid version have better reverb? - Page: 1
Posté Mon 19 Nov 18 @ 9:54 am
Actually the Free version is a full Pro version for 10 Minutes each start of the software. Meaning you are able to Test any pro feature including controllers for 10 minutes each start.
Posté Mon 19 Nov 18 @ 12:57 pm
Scoox wrote :
Is that sort of reverb possible in VDJ? thanks
Yes, any reverb is possible.
Just find the 32-bit .VST effect implementation, and add it into VDJ
If you don't know how, here is an example:
I did a test with this free one:
When turned all the way up that gives you 15-20 sec when you pause the track (with fxProcessing set to post fader of course)
Posté Mon 19 Nov 18 @ 2:54 pm
Posté Mon 19 Nov 18 @ 3:56 pm
Traktor (and most other DJ software) can't do that.
Posté Mon 19 Nov 18 @ 5:22 pm
Another huge omission in VDJ is the fact that FX don't have a dry/wet knob (a feature that was requested elsewhere on these forums over 6 years ago). Each FX has an on/off switch, next to it should be a dry/wet knob. For example, the built-in Echo effect has a single knob "Strenght" that kind of combines "Feedback" and "Dry/Wet" into a single knob, and does a poor job of it. Turning this knob hard-clockwise abruptly blocks the dry signal ("LOCK" is displayed instead of "100%") which doesn't sound very good, instead the Lock function should, if anything, be a separate button.
I'm finding VDJ superior to Traktor in almost every way but it doesn't quite deliver with the built-in FX.
On another thread someone recommended "TexZK Echo Doppler" and "TexZK Reverb". Under Setttings > Extensions > Effects > Audio Fx, I search for "Reverb" and I only get the built-in reverb with an option to uninstall it. If I search on the addons download page (http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/11861/Reverb.html), I can find Reverb by TexZK, but below it says "Your current licenses do not allow you to download Effects". I think this is what I meant when I said the paid version provides better effects.
Just curious, are effect addons actually VST plugins?
Posté Wed 21 Nov 18 @ 5:32 am
The author of these add-ons can decide if the add-on is available for everyone, only plus users, or only pro users.
In terms of stability, it's obviously best to properly test before using live, but that advice pretty much goes for everything.
Posté Wed 21 Nov 18 @ 6:08 am
Posté Wed 21 Nov 18 @ 6:22 am
1. No reverb tail. If I disable the effect, either from VDJ or using the plugin's own ON/OFF button, the reverb stops abruptly. I suppose the solution to this is to find a free plugin that can do reverb tails. I stress the word 'free' because I feel VDJ should be able to provide a decent reverb (such as Traktor's) with reverb tail out of the box. Lifetime upgrades are great but third-party effects require a separate license.
2. TAL-REVERB-4 looks tiny on my Surface Pro 4 display. I had a similar problem with FL Studio but later I learnt it has a "scaled" mode which makes plugin UIs bigger, maybe something like this is needed in VDJ unless there's already a workaround.
3. The VDJ UI could maybe expose at least 3 or 4 plugin parameters. Currently there are only two knobs that are mapped automatically to the first two parameters of the VST plugin and seemingly cannot be custom-mapped (but hopefully I'm wrong).
Finally, can you guys recommend a good free reverb plug that can do reverb tails and has a nice and big UI? Cheers.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 3:20 am
Then you can take advantage of post-fader fx processing and basically all effects
Regarding the 2 knobs gui and the small vst GUI, I would ignore it. I wouldn't have the time to look st it or mess around with it using the mouse while djing anyway. So I would simply map it so that I had the needed control at my fingertips while DJing. As you can see in my video above you can map more knobs and buttons
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 4:17 am
In Traktor, if you need the effect to stop abruptly, without tailing, each deck has FX routing buttons to do this.
If I use post-fader FX in VDJ I can get the reverb tail effect but only if the deck stops playing audio, because that's the only way to prevent any audio reaching the reverb plugin.
Not saying Traktor is perfect either, for example, I wish it could have per-deck & per-FX send knobs. In Virtual DJ each deck has its own separate FX instance which gives you much more control than Traktor.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 5:07 am
I haven't extensively tried TAL-Reverb, but I see it also has an On/Off button and wet/dry knobs.
Did you try if you can get a tail using these instead of turning off the effect in vdj?
You can access other sliders/button using vdjscript effect_button and effect_slider.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 8:13 am
I own Mulab MUX so I could patch up a reverb FX in parallel with the dry signal with a level control before the reverb, then map the level control to a button on my controller. That would get me what I want, with any reverb plugin. Otherwise it's a case of finding a reverb plugin that can switch off its input whilst still letting the dry signal through and the reverb tail. I have looked at a few but none of them can do it.
If someone knows a nice reverb that can do this, I'd much prefer that because with MUX it's a plugin inside a plugin inside VDJ, which spells trouble during a live set.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 8:24 am
Reverb tails are super useful, honestly. In Traktor I can briefly tap the reverb on/off switch on then off and that adds a tasteful touch of reverb that nicely fades out by itself, leaving my hands free to do something else.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 8:43 am
Scoox wrote :
Just my opinion, it would be much better if FX were treated as "FX slots"
It already is. That why you can assign different effects to different slots. The default gui only shows 3 slots but you can assign slot 4, 5 and 6 and so on if you like. It's all in how you script it
Scoox wrote :
In Traktor I can briefly tap the reverb on/off switch on then off and that adds a tasteful touch of reverb that nicely fades out by itself, leaving my hands free to do something else.
Yes, I do that too. Simply by starting the effect and then cutting off the track. Same with echo. Remember to set fxProcessing to post-fader for it to work
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 9:22 am
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 9:58 am
effect_active 'Filter HP' & effect_active 'Echo'
You can add or replace one with 'Reverb' and you can also activate/deactive by slot 1,2 and 3 or any combination you'd like.
effect_active 1 'Reverb' on or effect_active 1
Another good VST Plugin is Sanford Reverb (now free and 64bit) and it has early reflections (time, pan, level), Mix, Filter (locut, hicut), Reverb (damp, freeze), and Modulation (depth, speed) and the GUI's large, but I'm not sure if it'll do the tail end just like the other VST mentioned, but worth a try. I don't have it installed to test it out myself.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 10:47 am
From your replies I conclude VDJ cannot do reverb tails while the track continues to play, unless a third-party VST host (e.g. MUX or Image-Line Minihost Modular). The trick is to route the FX in parallel to the dry signal. I'll try those and see if it works well.
First-time users are going to judge the software on what it can do right off the bat so it'd be better if all this was standard functions. Just looking at the GUI there's absolutely hint that VDJ can host third-party plugins. I only know because it came up in a Google search, and it caught my eye only because I know what VST plugins are. Then I had to do a bit of digging to find out where I was supposed to put the plugin dll file. It works, and the power is there, but there's a steep learning curve that many users will find intimidating.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 11:22 am
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 11:25 am
Scoox wrote :
there's absolutely hint
You mean there's "absolutely NO hint"? On the GUI, true - but it's in the manual now*.
* For a long time it wasn't even in the manual, and if I mentioned that on the forum, I tended to get shot down. I too think it would be advantageous to make it more obvious via the GUI - because unfortunately so many tend to dive in without even glancing at the manual.
Posté Sat 01 Dec 18 @ 11:49 am