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is this possible? i have the time coded vinyls of serato as well as the serato box!. can anyone tell me if this is possible and what the pro/cons are of using these two together?

i am interested in the video mixing and i was told that this can be done with virtual dj and that one can use the serato box along with this. thanx guys!!
 
Posté Mon 12 Jan 09 @ 8:41 am

You can use the Serato box (its really just a soundcard), and you can use your Serato timecode with VDJ.

Cons? none ;)

And yes, all features of VDJ would work with your soundcard (SL-1), and your SSL vinyls.... including VDJ video mixing
 
thanx a lot u have made my week... now to try out the video mixing :D

is there anything i should know in the way of setting both serato up with the virtual dj?thank you
 


basically is just selecting the soundcard in VDJ (the serato box), then selecting the right timecode engine (noisemap), and you're good to go ;)
 
hi again . i set up the serato with the virtual dj. and did the configuration. so it was onto timecoded vinyl .mixer and serato box. but when i played the turntables the sound from the virtual dj (songs) were sounding like they were warbling. and it didnt sound too good atall. does anyone know why this would be? do i need to change anything else in the configuration settings? ive also put it onto the noisemap thing so it recognises the timecoded vinyl and serato

basically there is sound coming out but it doesnt sound quite right. i was also trying to crossfade with the videos but the crossfader on my external mixer wasnt changing the videos only the songs!!!

would i be better off buying virtual dj time coded vinyl to work with the serato box?

any help would be appreciated. thank you
 


First of all you really need the legal pro version for this to work ;) So I hope thats on the list of things to get :)

When in timecode-config, press auto-config.
That should detect your optimal settings..

Make sure you have two nice waves or circles (depending on timecode wave view).

After this, go to performance tab in VDJ, and choose the following.

Latency : Auto
Performance slider : As far right as your PC can handle, ideally all the way.


If you still experience issues, try enable overclock (performance tab), and turn off clear sound (timecode config)


Hope that helps ;)
 
hahah cool m8 i dont know if its legal or not i tried it on my friends computer to try it out.

how much is it anyway? i just wanted to try it before i went out and bought it soley because i was aware it worked with serato scratch live. so u think that may be helping causing problems then?

i presssed auto config on both of the channels also. and it was still warbling. and when i pushed the track forward and back on thetime coded vinyl it seemed as tho it wasnt picking up the sound properly. i also checked the waveform circles. ... it was also dropping from 100 % down quite a bit. maybe to about 50%

ive also played about with the other configurations and tried them too and still problems. i may try again tomorrow and see how it goes.if i get it going then i will be buying it for myself. thanx a lot for the help i appreciate it :D
 
yeah i tried both .and the settings are circles. as in the same circles u get when u enter set up in serato scratch live.

it seemd to drop the % when i was just playing it. the % would go down occasionaly then up to 100% then down and so on. i dont think its my control vinyl as it works ok on my serato. i tried the other tweaks also .
 

when you scratch/move the platter, the waveform % will drop.. its natural ;)

But when spinning normally, does both read 100%?
(Edit : seems it does not.. so something need tweaking)


Make sure you have clear sound off at timecode settings or on.. try both. See what works best for you.
And make sure performance tab is set high, and latency auto (same setting place)


Also, try some strange setting that can go wrong at times
- Invert phase / invert stero (try on off for both) (TC config)
Doubt it will do any good, but worth a shot...



 
What TT, cartridges are u using and ur system specs?
 
ok here goes ive narrowed it down to my right side of the deck. its sitting around the 1% mark.very bad im presuming.ive changed the left turntable phono into the right deck on serato .still the same. i changed the phono cables from my box to the mixer on the right channel also. stil the same. im hoping it isnt my serato box is faulty.it seems to be going ok with my serato scratchlive program.ill do a test on that just to make sure

the carts im using are stanton trackmasters technic 1200s and the spec of the laptop is

windows vista

memory : 2038 mb

system type 32 bit operating system

processor:intel dual 1.73 gh

its just the right side of the deck that seems to be causing the major problem now..left deck is relativley ok
 


ok...

when looking at the timecode wave/circle, and you spin the vinyl normally... It does not give a steady 100% signal right?

So, what happens if you STOP the vinyl... does it show a flat non moving wave/circle.... or does it show movements.
If so, you have some sort of interferance, try adjusting the silencer adjuster in tc settings (Advanced view)

If thats not it, press auto config again (to go back to starting point) and adjust TC up/down, as well as software RIAA (amp).

Something is not giving you the signal you should have (too loud/too low/interferance).

It can be the needles, but try adjusting in advanced view in tc settings first.


(As for getting VDJ timecode, it can be a last resort, if all fails. They can be bought online here, or at local dj stores as Numark Virtual Vinyl disks)


But lets see if we can fix it for you first.... Timecode is very sensitive to needles, so it might be that for sure.

But the serato disks can work absolutely flawless with VDJ, and the super famous Coldcut DJs use Serato vinyls with Virtual DJ because they work better for them.
 
ok matey. by the way i appreciate you guys trying to help me out.

right ive managed to get the signal to 100 % without much fluctuation. but there is some kinda interference coming through the speakers. as if its crackling. its strange because earlier when i done the auto config it was giving me a message reading something like ' no time coded vinyl try checking your leads or turning up the volume' so i am guessing there is a fault somewere.

ive tried the left deck in the right side of the serato box again and thats giving me that interference sound although the signal is staying around the 100 % mark.. do u think its something to do with my serato box? i also tried it in serato scratchlive and it seems to be working fine in there

i dont think it is now virtual dj but a sound fault. but the left hand deck is fine. just seems to be when i plug into the right side of the serato
 


Crackles/pops are due to audio buffer running out of audio data when waiting for new from the CPU.
You have too low latency setting, most likely.

Make sure you did set latency to AUTO in VDJ performace tab.

If its still crackles, try with safe mode on/off and oveclock on/off in performance tab also. (it will try aid your PC to stream audio better).
 
i ment to add that in the settings were you select time coded vinyl..mixer and sl1. it gives me the option of an asio sound driver as well as the sl1. buht when i click on the asio sound driver the music stops and it says error in the asio sound driver. do u think this is causing a problem? ive been selecting the sl1 sound card option and ive been getting sound.only problem is with that crackling sound on the right deck
 
Also make sure the stylus free of dust and do adjust the tonearm a bit:)
 
you are an absolute star. i think ive had the performance slider to far to the right in the sound setup .happy days haha. just need to figure out how i get the videos mixed together using the external mixer.


thanx a lot for taking the time out to help me much appreciated my friend
 
Good, it works ;)

For mixing videos on external mixer there is more of a "challenge"

Serato have solved this by locking their video feature to the insane expensive Rane mixer that has (their own) midi.

VDJ, solves this by allowing ANY midi controller, to control the video crossfader.
So to mix/crossfade video, you really need some sort of midi controller... (unless you want to use mouse and keyboard).


Midi controllers range from cheap bargain beginner deals, to very pro mixers.
From M-Audio X-Session (simple midi controller), to Pioneer DJM800 (expensive pro mixer).

Between that, there is a lot of mixers, such as Numark Total Control, Numark Omi, Hercules RMX, Vestax VCI, Ecler mixers (Nuo4, Evo4, Evo5), Korg Zero4, Pioneer DJM700 etc
 
oh thats not good. i dont have a midi controller. arghhhhhhh!!! only vestax pmc 05 scratch mixer. and ill be using alan and heath or ueri mixer in the club ill be working in at the summer. thats the whole reason i wanted to use it as well :( i thought with the sound card or serato u can mix videos also. oh well back to the drawing board haha.
 


yeah, unlike Serato, you CAN mix video with what you got.. a soundcard and vinyls...

But if you are asking about an external control of the software (aka mixer), ALL softwares that gives this oportunity needs some sort of midi or hid signal to be sent to the PC to let the PC know what you are doing on your mixer.

This goes for any software out there ;)

But that being said, you CAN mix the video on your keyboard or using mouse... also. And crossfade audio on the mixer.

You can map the video crossfader to 2 keys (for example arrow keys), at your keyboard and use that...

I'm only saying a midi controller is a plus ;)
 
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