dat_boi_tj
i am seriously considering serato.. i do indeed love VDJ, but i can honestly say that i dont feel 100% cetrain that it isnt going to crash in the middle of a gig.. although VDJ has great online support, it only helps after the fact... another reason i think i may switch is because serato seems to be the industry standard in DJ software and anything elso seems foreign to other promoters and club owners...
Posté Mon 14 Sep 09 @ 6:04 pm
DJRudeDoGG
I understand what you are saying and definitely feel your concern, but what besides "industry standard" draws you to Serato? I have both and rarely use Serato. And who cares about industry standard, why do you care? I don't know, I guess I just getting too old to understand why in the hell someone should give a rats a$$ what other people think!
Are you actually saying that promoters and club owners would not hire you because you are not using the so-called "industry standard"...wait a minute...I thought Pioneer CDJ-1000s were the industry standard!? Meh! There is really no such thing. Don't be a follower, be a leader. If you say you choose Serato because you think it's more stable, that's a more self respecting reason, even if it is misguided, but don't choose it because someone says it's an "industry standard", have some dignity for Christ's sake...
DJ RuDe
Keep Spinnin'!! (what you like, not what other DJs claim)
Are you actually saying that promoters and club owners would not hire you because you are not using the so-called "industry standard"...wait a minute...I thought Pioneer CDJ-1000s were the industry standard!? Meh! There is really no such thing. Don't be a follower, be a leader. If you say you choose Serato because you think it's more stable, that's a more self respecting reason, even if it is misguided, but don't choose it because someone says it's an "industry standard", have some dignity for Christ's sake...
DJ RuDe
Keep Spinnin'!! (what you like, not what other DJs claim)
Posté Mon 14 Sep 09 @ 6:23 pm
Tear Em 'Up
There are a lot of users who have both softwares. I own Itch and VDJ, along with CUE and a couple of other softwares. The better educated I get about things...the more I enjoy VDJ.....
Posté Mon 14 Sep 09 @ 6:24 pm
dat_boi_tj
DJRudeDoGG wrote :
I understand what you are saying and definitely feel your concern, but what besides "industry standard" draws you to Serato? I have both and rarely use Serato. And who cares about industry standard, why do you care? I don't know, I guess I just getting too old to understand why in the hell someone should give a rats a$$ what other people think!
Are you actually saying that promoters and club owners would not hire you because you are not using the so-called "industry standard"...wait a minute...I thought Pioneer CDJ-1000s were the industry standard!? Meh! There is really no such thing. Don't be a follower, be a leader. If you say you choose Serato because you think it's more stable, that's a more self respecting reason, even if it is misguided, but don't choose it because someone says it's an "industry standard", have some dignity for Christ's sake...
DJ RuDe
Keep Spinnin'!! (what you like, not what other DJs claim)
Are you actually saying that promoters and club owners would not hire you because you are not using the so-called "industry standard"...wait a minute...I thought Pioneer CDJ-1000s were the industry standard!? Meh! There is really no such thing. Don't be a follower, be a leader. If you say you choose Serato because you think it's more stable, that's a more self respecting reason, even if it is misguided, but don't choose it because someone says it's an "industry standard", have some dignity for Christ's sake...
DJ RuDe
Keep Spinnin'!! (what you like, not what other DJs claim)
good points, but.. i have used serato and it does seem way more stable (mac user) i dont like going into a gig having itunes on standby because a certain track may shut down vdj, or hoping that i dont have soundcard issues.. and the only time i care about what people think is when its dealing with my money....
Posté Mon 14 Sep 09 @ 6:40 pm
low-fat-al
high treason?
probably too harsh on yourself.
It basically boils down to what works for you.
I have both Serato and VDJ. I have my uses for VDJ and it works great for those uses. But I also have my uses for Serato... mainly nightclub and expo situations.
Both are great products!
probably too harsh on yourself.
It basically boils down to what works for you.
I have both Serato and VDJ. I have my uses for VDJ and it works great for those uses. But I also have my uses for Serato... mainly nightclub and expo situations.
Both are great products!
Posté Mon 14 Sep 09 @ 7:57 pm
vantinedj
I have been using VDJ for years. I may be one of the first purchasers of the product. I never one time had an issue live. I mean that. Never. Never a crash live. Guess I am one of the lucky ones. I also don't use TCV and built a superior rack mount system. I stay away from laptops. So can I say for the mobile dj it is a great program. Very stable. Yes. I do bring cds and have one ready just in case but anyone should do that.
Posté Mon 14 Sep 09 @ 8:08 pm
djcity
I once had a club owner / promoter tell me that when he sees a DJ with serato, he feels that dj knows what he's doing. He said this to me as I was pulling my laptop out my backpack.
When he saw me pull out my NI Audio 4 soundcard, he was like WTF?!? He thought I would be using Traktor.
When he saw me load VDJ and saw the skin I was using (Mixstation) He had no idea what to think. He had never seen or heard of VDJ.
When he saw how I CRANKED HIS CLUB that night, heard how hard I was rockin, Heard my meagar effects, well, not really meager but I did not overdo the effects, HE WAS FLOORED!!!!!!!!!
He said, I was kinda nervous about that VDJ program you were using but DAMN....I like that. I have never seen it before.
I say that to say this...
Serato is a great program but it is overrated. It is great at what it does but it does not do enough to justify it's cost. VDJ is a great program and it does so much more than the others.
Stability can be an issue but most stability issues are user / computer related. Yes serato is easy, plug and play but VDJ is customizable, versatile, and reliable.
I have not had a crash in 4 years. YES...4 years. I use timecode. I use v3.4. An OLD version but in all these years, I have had NO CRASHES and I am a professional DJ in the clubs and mobile.
Good luck to you and be happy in your software decision. Either software is superb. I only say to you not to make a decision based on what the Jonses have. Use what works for you. VDJ works for me.
Good luck to ya.
When he saw me pull out my NI Audio 4 soundcard, he was like WTF?!? He thought I would be using Traktor.
When he saw me load VDJ and saw the skin I was using (Mixstation) He had no idea what to think. He had never seen or heard of VDJ.
When he saw how I CRANKED HIS CLUB that night, heard how hard I was rockin, Heard my meagar effects, well, not really meager but I did not overdo the effects, HE WAS FLOORED!!!!!!!!!
He said, I was kinda nervous about that VDJ program you were using but DAMN....I like that. I have never seen it before.
I say that to say this...
Serato is a great program but it is overrated. It is great at what it does but it does not do enough to justify it's cost. VDJ is a great program and it does so much more than the others.
Stability can be an issue but most stability issues are user / computer related. Yes serato is easy, plug and play but VDJ is customizable, versatile, and reliable.
I have not had a crash in 4 years. YES...4 years. I use timecode. I use v3.4. An OLD version but in all these years, I have had NO CRASHES and I am a professional DJ in the clubs and mobile.
Good luck to you and be happy in your software decision. Either software is superb. I only say to you not to make a decision based on what the Jonses have. Use what works for you. VDJ works for me.
Good luck to ya.
Posté Mon 14 Sep 09 @ 10:07 pm
low-fat-al
djcity wrote :
I have not had a crash in 4 years. YES...4 years. I use timecode. I use v3.4. An OLD version but in all these years, I have had NO CRASHES and I am a professional DJ in the clubs and mobile.
I have not had a crash in 4 years. YES...4 years. I use timecode. I use v3.4. An OLD version but in all these years, I have had NO CRASHES and I am a professional DJ in the clubs and mobile.
I have to ask...
Why haven't you upgraded? It is already version 6.0.2
version 3.4?
Believe me I had hardly any issues the entire time I used it live in nightclubs.. but... I had to bring a custom built computer in. I too do timecodes, etc. I found issue when I started using my laptop to DJ. I tried 4 different soundcards and couldn't get it to be that stable... and it would take a while to configure it. That was over a year ago. I haven't tried the newer versions on my laptop with different soundcards. I just know that I can't afford for a crash or to configure settings EVERYTIME I set up at a club. Especially if I am going on right after another DJ. It literally takes minutes from boot to loading Serato for you to up and running... no configuring with software! Literally plug-n-play and very stable... NEVER Crashed ONCE!!
It is a very common DJ tool just about every nightclub I go to here in Las Vegas... I never see any other product used.
For VDJ... I have my uses for it.. mainly mobile applications or automated playback setups. Other than that ... I can't use it in a nightclub when I travel from club to club.
just my $.02
Posté Tue 15 Sep 09 @ 12:51 am
Charlie Wilson
My advice get both, I have Serato also
Posté Tue 15 Sep 09 @ 5:06 am
kradcliffe
Although I've had no problems with VDJ 5.2 on XP, I think if I was going down the Mac route to DJ with it would have to be Serato.
Serato is quite basic but very stable, where VDJ just tries to cover too many bases (karaoke, timecode etc) and compatibility with such a wide array of hardware inevitably sadly causes issues.
I also feel VDJ does have an image problem regarding stability and is seen as unreliable in some quarters. Each to their own I suppose, but if I get on well with my Mac Pro and go down the macbook route then it will probably be bye bye to VDJ although I will test it thoroughly over the next few weeks to see what happens.
Most people only find problems with VDJ after they've paid for it, so the money is in the bag by that point anyway!
Serato is quite basic but very stable, where VDJ just tries to cover too many bases (karaoke, timecode etc) and compatibility with such a wide array of hardware inevitably sadly causes issues.
I also feel VDJ does have an image problem regarding stability and is seen as unreliable in some quarters. Each to their own I suppose, but if I get on well with my Mac Pro and go down the macbook route then it will probably be bye bye to VDJ although I will test it thoroughly over the next few weeks to see what happens.
Most people only find problems with VDJ after they've paid for it, so the money is in the bag by that point anyway!
Posté Tue 15 Sep 09 @ 6:34 am
John Doe 1x67s
One should always has some kind of back-up solution when DJ'ing with a laptop, no matter what software. Serato is not 100% crash proof either, just look at their forum. Besides, even if your software doesn't fail there's always the odd chance your hardware does.
That being said, despite the extremely low fault rate I've had with Virtual DJ some experiences of other users make me feel a bit uneasy. While I'm inclined to think that majority of these problems are caused by poorly maintened operating systems, wrong configuration and bad drivers rather than VDJ itself, I would be happy to see the next release(s) to focus solely on bug fixes and stability.
Virtual DJ is by far the most versatile DJ-application at the moment, so I don't think there's such high preassure to constantly keep adding new features - especially on the expense of quality control.
That being said, despite the extremely low fault rate I've had with Virtual DJ some experiences of other users make me feel a bit uneasy. While I'm inclined to think that majority of these problems are caused by poorly maintened operating systems, wrong configuration and bad drivers rather than VDJ itself, I would be happy to see the next release(s) to focus solely on bug fixes and stability.
Virtual DJ is by far the most versatile DJ-application at the moment, so I don't think there's such high preassure to constantly keep adding new features - especially on the expense of quality control.
Posté Tue 15 Sep 09 @ 6:42 am
Drimachus
Yes, SSL is def not crash-proof. I had to start taking a desk-top, because after about an hour I would lose all my cue functions. They kept telling me that my laptop was getting hot. So I started using a desktop with a fan big enough to cool a warehouse. Still had same problems. It wouldn't crash completely, but would lose functions like loop, or cues, and unable to get them back without re-start.
Posté Tue 15 Sep 09 @ 7:46 am
djcity
low-fat-al wrote :
I have to ask...
Why haven't you upgraded? It is already version 6.0.2
version 3.4?
I found issue when I started using my laptop to DJ.
I tried 4 different soundcards and couldn't get it to be that stable
it would take a while to configure it.
djcity wrote :
I have not had a crash in 4 years. YES...4 years. I use timecode. I use v3.4. An OLD version but in all these years, I have had NO CRASHES and I am a professional DJ in the clubs and mobile.
I have not had a crash in 4 years. YES...4 years. I use timecode. I use v3.4. An OLD version but in all these years, I have had NO CRASHES and I am a professional DJ in the clubs and mobile.
I have to ask...
Why haven't you upgraded? It is already version 6.0.2
version 3.4?
I found issue when I started using my laptop to DJ.
I tried 4 different soundcards and couldn't get it to be that stable
it would take a while to configure it.
I do have 6.0.2 on a different laptop but I don't have it the way I want it yet. Database issues. My older laptop with the old version works perfectly. It's been working perfectly for years. No problems, no issues, no crashes, no snaps crackles or pops, no latency issues, no search issues. It just works the way it should.
I read the boards all the time and see the issues some have with the upgrades over the years and I have NONE of those issues with v3.4.
Posté Tue 15 Sep 09 @ 8:19 am