which one is best cheap but good as a backup in case laptop flop i was thinking about the numark cd mix2 or the gemini cdm3600 need a mixer in case rmx gets out of order
Posté Thu 05 Nov 09 @ 10:16 pm
I have an American Audio Q-SD. I chose this because of the built in SD card player.
This is my backup. I didn't see the point in investing in CD players when I am 100% MP3. I have 2 or 3 2Gb SD cards with current, popular and cheesy tunes on and switch accordingly.
Then, if the lappy fails, I simply press play and away it goes.
I've only had to use this once to date, and that was my own fault as I forgot to plug the damn thing in and drained the battery. It was a good test though as it caught me off guard - and noone really noticed.
Add to that, the fact that the footprint (of it being built in to the mixer) means that I have nothing extra to carry around and I can update my SD cards on the fly.
Plus if a client wants a special tune played, I ask them to bring it on an SD card. That way it doesn't go near my laptop either...
But one of the best things I've found it that I can play my final song from SD. This means by the time the song is finished, the laptop is powered down and packed away. Great for the club I work in as I can be out the door within 5mins of finishing ;-)
Roy
This is my backup. I didn't see the point in investing in CD players when I am 100% MP3. I have 2 or 3 2Gb SD cards with current, popular and cheesy tunes on and switch accordingly.
Then, if the lappy fails, I simply press play and away it goes.
I've only had to use this once to date, and that was my own fault as I forgot to plug the damn thing in and drained the battery. It was a good test though as it caught me off guard - and noone really noticed.
Add to that, the fact that the footprint (of it being built in to the mixer) means that I have nothing extra to carry around and I can update my SD cards on the fly.
Plus if a client wants a special tune played, I ask them to bring it on an SD card. That way it doesn't go near my laptop either...
But one of the best things I've found it that I can play my final song from SD. This means by the time the song is finished, the laptop is powered down and packed away. Great for the club I work in as I can be out the door within 5mins of finishing ;-)
Roy
Posté Fri 06 Nov 09 @ 5:40 am
Hi mate
Check out Numarks D2. I have heard some good things about this unit and it will work with external HDDs as well as USB sticks. I am thinking of replacing my Numark CDN95 with a D2 just for convinience.
Daz
Check out Numarks D2. I have heard some good things about this unit and it will work with external HDDs as well as USB sticks. I am thinking of replacing my Numark CDN95 with a D2 just for convinience.
Daz
Posté Fri 06 Nov 09 @ 6:06 am
Dazmax wrote :
Check out Numarks D2. I have heard some good things about this unit and it will work with external HDDs as well as USB sticks. I am thinking of replacing my Numark CDN95 with a D2 just for convinience.
Daz, this is very similar to the American Audio SD-1. Great piece of kit, but will obviously need flightcasing and hooking in to a mixer. I see these as replacements for twin CD players as they effectively look the same as the control panel for those...
I started by looking at one of these is my backup and at that time was using a Behringer XENYX 1204 which I plugged my RMX in to. Adding the SD-1 made this a wiring nightmare, plus I had nowhere to put the SD-1 as you can't lay it flat as all the connections are on the back.
I looked at a lot of options and as I was intending to flightcase the RMX, I thought about putting the SD-1 in with the RMX - Looked great, but still had to run all the cables to the XENYX.
PLus do you really need a twin player as a backup? A single CD deck or SD-Card player is fine - as you are only ever using it to CYA while you get the primary system back on its feet.
Of cousre the guys that work the MIDI/CD players don't have this issue as the backup in the CD player itself - which of course is another option..
Cheers,
Roy
Posté Fri 06 Nov 09 @ 6:49 am
hi there i no this is totaly off the subject but is it possible to use a previous version of virtual dj (4.2) with the new console released by hercules (e2 edition) please could someone get back to me as soon as possible!
Posté Sat 07 Nov 09 @ 7:34 am
Hi Rekless
Yep it is off the subject. I would suggest if you have not done this already. Raise your question in the Hardware forum as a new post. You may well get a response.
I don't kow the answer BTW but please don't post of subject it is unlikely to get you the information you need
cheers
Daz
Yep it is off the subject. I would suggest if you have not done this already. Raise your question in the Hardware forum as a new post. You may well get a response.
I don't kow the answer BTW but please don't post of subject it is unlikely to get you the information you need
cheers
Daz
Posté Sat 07 Nov 09 @ 9:57 am
Hey Gadget.
You make some good points.
As far as do you realy need a twin player as a backup.Well yes, I would feel more comfortable with a twin to CMA in case I had something nasty like a power suppy go in my gig PC. I could run off a memory stick lift the lid on my PC and hook up the drive holding my music using a USB/SATA addaptor and "Bobs your mothers brother", back up and running with all my music available. What do you think?
as far as CDplayers go I guess most of the cheaper units that can play MP3 encoded disc's would be fine. Numark/Citronic/Kam etc all make em.
Daz
You make some good points.
As far as do you realy need a twin player as a backup.Well yes, I would feel more comfortable with a twin to CMA in case I had something nasty like a power suppy go in my gig PC. I could run off a memory stick lift the lid on my PC and hook up the drive holding my music using a USB/SATA addaptor and "Bobs your mothers brother", back up and running with all my music available. What do you think?
as far as CDplayers go I guess most of the cheaper units that can play MP3 encoded disc's would be fine. Numark/Citronic/Kam etc all make em.
Daz
Posté Sat 07 Nov 09 @ 10:07 am
Dazmax wrote :
As far as do you realy need a twin player as a backup.Well yes, I would feel more comfortable with a twin to CMA in case I had something nasty like a power suppy go in my gig PC. I could run off a memory stick lift the lid on my PC and hook up the drive holding my music using a USB/SATA addaptor and "Bobs your mothers brother", back up and running with all my music available. What do you think?
Daz,
The onlt power supplies I've lost have been ones in servers - machines running 24x7 - You're more likely to get a hard drive failuer than a PSU failure...
My music is held on a 1Tb external drive so would have loved a USB port on the mixer, but hey having 8Gb of music over 4 cards does the trick ;-)
Problem with a PC is battery backup. What if you get a power failure or someone flicks the wrong switch and turns off all your equipment (that has happened to me). The lappy will survive on battery and keep playing until the amp kicks back in - or at least give you time to save your playlist... With a PC you'd have to re-boot and re-create your playlist - so for that you would definately need a twin player backup!!!
My worst case scenario would be having to re-bot the laptop, but witht he SD player I can queue the next track up while the first is playing. Wouldn't be a superstar DJ mix, but would keep something coming out the speakers!!!!
Roy
Posté Mon 09 Nov 09 @ 6:43 am
Yeh I know what you mean.
I have a UPS that gives me about 15 min of backup time on my PC. As I am working in Saudi Arabia at the moment I can never be shure of a clean supply so i have a system which uses 2 2kw and 2 4kw electronic line regulators and a UPS. Its all heavy stuff but the power supplies out here suck.
I also use a 1TB backup drive which is a clone of the main drive, it is rigged with a changeover switch on the power cabe that is mounted on the panel ( My PC is in an industrial 19" rack case so the switch is behind a lockable front flap) so that if my main drive fails I can switch off the computer hit the changever switch, power up again and I am back to normal running. the changeover takes about 2 min from shut down to fully re-started. So some form of memory stick player would do fine i guess. I have seen a couple of these little 1U rackspace media players that will take anything from a HDD to an SD card but they are Vexpensive for what they do. I think the D2 was cheaper.
Daz
I have a UPS that gives me about 15 min of backup time on my PC. As I am working in Saudi Arabia at the moment I can never be shure of a clean supply so i have a system which uses 2 2kw and 2 4kw electronic line regulators and a UPS. Its all heavy stuff but the power supplies out here suck.
I also use a 1TB backup drive which is a clone of the main drive, it is rigged with a changeover switch on the power cabe that is mounted on the panel ( My PC is in an industrial 19" rack case so the switch is behind a lockable front flap) so that if my main drive fails I can switch off the computer hit the changever switch, power up again and I am back to normal running. the changeover takes about 2 min from shut down to fully re-started. So some form of memory stick player would do fine i guess. I have seen a couple of these little 1U rackspace media players that will take anything from a HDD to an SD card but they are Vexpensive for what they do. I think the D2 was cheaper.
Daz
Posté Wed 11 Nov 09 @ 3:59 am
Dazmax wrote :
Yeh I know what you mean.
I have a UPS that gives me about 15 min of backup time on my PC. As I am working in Saudi Arabia at the moment I can never be shure of a clean supply so i have a system which uses 2 2kw and 2 4kw electronic line regulators and a UPS. Its all heavy stuff but the power supplies out here suck.
I also use a 1TB backup drive which is a clone of the main drive, it is rigged with a changeover switch on the power cabe that is mounted on the panel ( My PC is in an industrial 19" rack case so the switch is behind a lockable front flap) so that if my main drive fails I can switch off the computer hit the changever switch, power up again and I am back to normal running. the changeover takes about 2 min from shut down to fully re-started. So some form of memory stick player would do fine i guess. I have seen a couple of these little 1U rackspace media players that will take anything from a HDD to an SD card but they are Vexpensive for what they do. I think the D2 was cheaper.
Daz
I have a UPS that gives me about 15 min of backup time on my PC. As I am working in Saudi Arabia at the moment I can never be shure of a clean supply so i have a system which uses 2 2kw and 2 4kw electronic line regulators and a UPS. Its all heavy stuff but the power supplies out here suck.
I also use a 1TB backup drive which is a clone of the main drive, it is rigged with a changeover switch on the power cabe that is mounted on the panel ( My PC is in an industrial 19" rack case so the switch is behind a lockable front flap) so that if my main drive fails I can switch off the computer hit the changever switch, power up again and I am back to normal running. the changeover takes about 2 min from shut down to fully re-started. So some form of memory stick player would do fine i guess. I have seen a couple of these little 1U rackspace media players that will take anything from a HDD to an SD card but they are Vexpensive for what they do. I think the D2 was cheaper.
Daz
Damn that sounds complicated. And you're not using a laptop because...?
Roy
Posté Wed 11 Nov 09 @ 7:17 am
hey Gadjet
I actualy do have a laptop with VDJ but I only use it for practice at home.
the Industrial machine is what I use for gigs. I provide DJing and band support which includes a live recording facility. Both VDJ and my recording work are covered by the PC. All the drives, 5X 1TB (1 is a standby clone with XP, VDJ and my music on) are built into this beast as are the specific interface cards I use for the recording side. Yeh its big but its tuff and has all I need in one box (bit like a Volvo 240 Estate)LOL. I have so many bits of kit that are 19" rack mount the size and weight saving of a laptop is of little importance.
I also find the PC easy to upgrade and maintain.
Daz
I actualy do have a laptop with VDJ but I only use it for practice at home.
the Industrial machine is what I use for gigs. I provide DJing and band support which includes a live recording facility. Both VDJ and my recording work are covered by the PC. All the drives, 5X 1TB (1 is a standby clone with XP, VDJ and my music on) are built into this beast as are the specific interface cards I use for the recording side. Yeh its big but its tuff and has all I need in one box (bit like a Volvo 240 Estate)LOL. I have so many bits of kit that are 19" rack mount the size and weight saving of a laptop is of little importance.
I also find the PC easy to upgrade and maintain.
Daz
Posté Wed 11 Nov 09 @ 11:03 am
Dazmax wrote :
(bit like a Volvo 240 Estate)
Now that's funny...
Roy
Posté Wed 11 Nov 09 @ 11:13 am