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A “Real” DJ is one that gets paid “Real” money—period. If you’re not getting paid, then DJing is basically a hobby no matter what kind of equipment you use....

OO
 
Their is already a term for DJ's that get paid to DJ..
They are called Pro's..

if you think a DJ saying to another DJ that they are not 'Real'.. is kinda weird..
you should read how 'pro DJ's' can call each other 'not pro'..

thinking about it now.. the whole concept is kinda ironic..
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Certainly is.

Like any performer there are always egos and DJs are no exception. Live musicians and singers can be just as bad. Instead of having some mutual respect for one and other they are forever going through the "Ime better than you because" thing. I don't think that will ever change.

Its funny though, as some of the most humble people I have met have been musicians and DJ's who are just that little cut above the rest. Kind of like, they just don't need to shout about it. They just demonstrate what they can do and wait for you to pick your bottom jaw up off the floor.

Daz
 
Fear of new technology can often lead to stigma unfortunately people worry that if some one has a easier system like CD's or MP3s they will do a better or cheaper job but the fact is if you are a good performer it doesnt matter what you use in my view.
 
I was a pioneer in my area first messing with computers and mp3s in 1998. I used VTT (Virtual TurnTables) back then. I remember doing a regular gig in a large ballroom with VTT and desktop tower with 17" analogue monitor back in 2001. Another DJ saw what I was doing, he said I couldn't overlap two songs as they had to be played one after the other like in Winamp. I then demonstrated, not only overlapping, but, beatmixing with a full dancefloor, his jaw dropped and bounced off the floor, lol.

In January, 2002 I started using laptops with the original PCDJ Red with the DMC-01 MIDI Controller. I used to get all the abuse "you're not a real DJ" blah blah blah. In 2005 I started taking my Technics 1210s in with a coupla boxes of the latest vinyl just for my own entertainment. As I was beatmatching with vinyl to vinyl and beatmatching to computer then back to vinyl etc., etc. Had lots of jaw dropping by the same nay sayers and all said maximum respect lol. That shut them up :-) It was fun but a lot to carry, did it for about a year and rarely get any abuse from the locals since then. Laptop DJing in my area is now pretty much accepted by most people.

Seems that a lot of DJ Booths are getting smaller and don't have the room for turntables anymore. Still got my 1210s and Pioneer DJM600, I've now got the Serato Scratch vinyls and sometimes have a bit mess around at home. I've yet to take them into a club and use 'live', may do someday (when I can be bothered with the extra carry in). :-)
 
hippydog wrote :
Their is already a term for DJ's that get paid to DJ..
They are called Pro's..


You either misunderstood my post or I didn’t explain myself properly. I did not post that a DJ who doesn’t get paid isn’t a DJ. What distinguishes a “Real” DJ from other classes of DJs is $$$. I will give you an analogy: You could be the best basketball player on the planet. However, if you are not getting paid to play, then you would not be considered a “Real” or "Pro" basketball player here in the U.S. There are some basket players who play Semi-Pro and only make a fraction of $$$ what PRO players get. If you were not in either category, you would be classified as someone who plays for fun—a hobbyist. Maybe this is different in other countries, but not here in the U.S. Therefore, I’m speaking from the perspective of where I live.

hippydog wrote :
if you think a DJ saying to another DJ that they are not 'Real'.. is kinda weird..
you should read how 'pro DJ's' can call each other 'not pro'..

thinking about it now.. the whole concept is kinda ironic..


Once again, it depends on where you live. In the U.S., so called “PRO” or “Real” DJs supposedly use SL because it is the industry standard here. Consequently, most SL users don’t consider VDJ users as “Pro” DJs, so you shouldn’t be surprised. However, this is not my opinion or I would be using SL. Regardless of what a DJ uses, I feel that any DJ that is getting paid for his or her services is a real DJ. Moreover, such a discussion is purely arbitrary. Consequently, there is no right or wrong answer. Furthermore, in my opinion, there are at least three categories of DJs: Professional, Semi-Professional, and Hobbyist.


OO


 
Mabye here downsouth Europe...I gig in Greece on the island of Crete...we are the lucky ones that nobody cares about with what you play your tunes with,since you keep the crowd moving..my opinion is that going digital opens you new roots and gives you the time you need to work through your mixset and make it more spicy no matter what kind of music you play...I am using vdj with timecode vinyls and honestly never gonna change my gig setup for the sake of these djs that the only reason they dont go digital is that they are bored to digitalize their music collection and change their dj attitude....And YES you can teach an old dog new tricks..I am a DJ 20 years now and I intend to go on for 20 more.
 
I knew a guy who flew a world war II plain back in the war. I also knew a guy who flew a Jet fighter plane in the Navy. I just called the younger guy up on the phone to tell him that he was not a real pilot. I hope you guys are happy now ). I swear I hear this crap on every board I'm on, the truth of the matter is your heart. If you feel that your a real DJ then you probably are.

Things change and technology changes do we short the farmer who plows with a tractor just because his grand father worked harder with a plow and a horse.I know you guys don't want to hear how I mix. Or about the clients that love me. People put it back in your pants and lets just agree some people will always see things in a different way but its our clients that matter.
 
Double O wrote :
A “Real” DJ is one that gets paid “Real” money—period. If you’re not getting paid, then DJing is basically a hobby no matter what kind of equipment you use....

OO


Let the church say amen!

DJs who use vinyl say if you don't use vinyl you are not real. DJs who use CDJs say if you don't use Pioneer CDJs you are not real. DJs who use Serato say if you don't use Serato you are not real. It becomes an endless spiral. Bedroom DJs vs. Real DJs. DJs who stay old school vs. Digital DJs. I have seen DJs use Pioneers as nothing more than controllers say DJs who use controllers are button pushers. I have seen DJs who use controllers who had no idea what a BPM is.

Here is what it comes down to

1) Do you listen, enjoy, and know whatever musical genre you like?
2) Can you mix the music you listen to?
3) Do you love mixing?
4) Do you get paid even though you'd do it for free?
 
here is the real deal. if you can rock a place regardless of equipment! pc cdjs turntables serato vdj.... really nobody gives a ***** as long as you dont play bs songs or mix or drop the songs if an awkward way that will empty the dancefloor.... the rest (equiment) is simple taste i personally use cdjs and of course Numark vinyl aka VDJ its not what you have its how you use it!!
 
DJ J-Jeovani wrote :
here is the real deal. if you can rock a place regardless of equipment! pc cdjs turntables serato vdj.... really nobody gives a *****!


...and that "is the real deal." “If you can rock a place” mixing beats in a blender and get paid, then you are a “Real” DJ—period!

DJ1derful wrote :
Let the church say amen!


Amen!

OO
 
Will chime in

Yes I think of myself as a real dj. Though to me as stated elsewhere it is not what equipment you have or use ..But simply passion for music, desire to bring a crowd to "life" rather mobile or club.., does the crowd enjoy, dance and have a good time thru your music playing. I also know that am I a great dj by no means a hell no..I can and could improve in some area or ways no body is perfect. But I dont let that stop me from having 4 shows a week rather karaoke/music, music(private parties) or mixing at the club every friday and sat. So it is really in the end at least IMO..what you feel and think of yourself period.
 
There have been hundreds of topics like this since DJ's went digital, people just can't seem to get over it.

I've been DJing for 15 years and within this industry you have always had to be adaptable to new equipment, thing is you get used to it.

I played at different clubs every weekend using different equipment each time! but basically it's all the same does the same job just a case of same shit different manufacture/layout.
 
Charlie Wilson wrote :
There have been hundreds of topics like this since DJ's went digital, people just can't seem to get over it.



Don't be so humble. There have been Billions and Billions of topics like this since the term Dj was invented...which by the way the original term DJ had nothing to do with mixing....it was the term coined to identify the person you heard on the RADIO!

"In 1935, American commentator Walter Winchell coined the term "disc jockey" (the combination of "disc" (referring to the disc records) and "jockey" (which is an operator of a machine) as a description of radio announcer Martin Block, the first announcer to become a star. While his audience was awaiting developments in the Lindbergh kidnapping, Block played records and created the illusion that he was broadcasting from a ballroom, with the nation’s top dance bands performing live. The show, which he called Make Believe Ballroom, was an instant hit."

So if all you turntable snobs, old school pureists, mac intellectuals, and seratto wannabe's want to stay "true to the game" then if you haven't been on the radio or you never get on the radio then you ain't never ever never ever never ever gonna be a REAL DJ....thankfully I started my career in radio so I truly am a real Dj!

enuf said, case closed, jury has ruled and I WIN ....as usual:)
 


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