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Running the Numark NS6 and even when I'm at 10oclock on the master dial I am pegging red on the external mixer.
Gains aren't the issue either. It's just running a super hot signal. Is there any way to scale back the intensity of the master volume with a mapper script?

Thanks for any advice. My nightclub owner is getting a bit upset with having to replace the speakers each month.
 
Posté Sat 15 Oct 11 @ 1:10 pm
If you're plugging into an external mixer then make sure that you are plugged into the right ports. It sounds like you are plugged into the phono jacks of the mixer and not the line-in jacks like you should be. Change your connections and you should be okay.
 
Which makes sense, but I'm jacking into the mixer with XLRs, not RCA.
 
That is likely what the issue is, but likely on the mixer side of things. Try an RCA connection and see how that works.
 
The other possibility is, the gains on the NS6 are set to high.
 
Thanks guys. Tearemup, is there a way to make the default 100% gain be at around 70%? Like when the dial is at Twelve O Clock it's actually pushing out 10 o'clock?
 
I'm sorry, I don;t know. I was making an educated guess. Gains are very touchy things. My VDJ I have the auto gain turned on. All of my controllers, the gains are dialed down to about 30% manually.
 
Why are you going into another mixer at all?

Just go straight from the NS6 XLR outs to the sound system. That's what it's been designed to do!

And if you insist on feeding one mixer into another, make sure you use an output that's of a more suitable level, such as a record output or a booth out - on RCA. XLR outs tend to be 'hotter' as they feed amps or powered speakers, not inputs on other mixers.

You've not said what this other mixer is, but if it's got XLR inputs, those will be designed for mic level signals, not the outputs from another mixer. You need to feed a line output into a line input.

If all else fails, just don't turn it up so much!
 
Aaro2n2001 wrote :
Is there any way to scale back the intensity of the master volume with a mapper script?


"param_multiply 70% & master_volume" if all else fails..
 
Groovin, to be clear, I'm simply jacking into a Mackie sound board that has numerous channels for other band items. But this mapper code might be exactly what I need! Ill give that a whirl and see if that does the trick. Otherwise I'll try the RCA trick.
Guys, thank you so much. You are always so helpful. I've never had a question that hasn't gone unanswered on these boards. A very helpful community.

Oh, and the speakers thank you as well.
 
First ... instead of making mapping changes you should just turn the Master Output of the NS6 down ... it is that simple.

But to look at the heart of the issue ... as others have stated regarding going into an Audio Mixer -- if it is a high grade Mackie console then the channels you are connected to should have a 'PAD' button. As mentioned before the mixer is expecting a MIC level not a LINE level connection. Most built in PADs are a -20db drop - this should be enough to keep the peak down - but you will still have to run the Master Output at no more than 60%-70% o nthe dial.

Also, if you pay close attention to what the NS6 Initializes VirtualDJ's Master Output level to - you will see that it sets internally VirtualDJ at 50%. Here is the first part of the ONINIT script - "master_volume 50% & ..."


Also, the MASTER knob is explicitly NOT mapped because the Master Output of the unit is ANALOG controlled - so if you map VirtualDJ's Master Output adjustment to it then you are doubling or halving the change in volume everytime you make a change to the Master output levels.

So, if you have mapped the MASTER then delete that mapping.

But my first advice is the most practical ... just turn down the NS6 so you are not clipping the channels at the sound board ...
 
Hi Guys,

I am having a similar issues. Are you saying you recommend running RCA for channels 1 and 2 and not XLR from the master outs?
 
You're feeding the output of the NS6 into the mic inputs of another mixer?

Details please.
 
The NS6 has a very loud sound card, it's one of the many things I love about it. At home mine is fed via xlr to a edirol m16dx mixer and I have to turn the gains on the edirol all the way down with volume about 10 o'clock on channels 3&4, master volume of ns6 set to about 9 o'clock. When gigging run straight into my speakers with their volumes barely at 8 o'clock and the ns6 never going past 12 o'cl;ock.
 
groovindj wrote :
You're feeding the output of the NS6 into the mic inputs of another mixer?

Details please.


Some places that I DJ at I am unable to plug into the speakers directly so they have mixers to plug in to. The club I DJ at Thursdays have a 12 channel mackie mixer and I plug via XLR into channels 1 and 2. With my NS6 master barely up, it red lines the mixer. Trying to figure out a way around this.
 
OK so it's a Mackie mixer......but which one?

If it only has mic inputs (which XLR connections will undoubtedly be) then you'll need to use a DI box to link the NS6 to the Mackie.

Get one that can accept line level inputs and has attenuation switches so you can drop the level down to something suitable.

If the Mackie has got stereo inputs (which most PA mixers now have) then use those instead. You'll be able to connect directly then, without overloading and without buying any extra kit to fix a problem you've created yourself.




The lesson here is: you can't connect line level output (which is loud) to mic level input (which is quiet). It overloads.
 
groovindj wrote :
OK so it's a Mackie mixer......but which one?

If it only has mic inputs (which XLR connections will undoubtedly be) then you'll need to use a DI box to link the NS6 to the Mackie.

Get one that can accept line level inputs and has attenuation switches so you can drop the level down to something suitable.

If the Mackie has got stereo inputs (which most PA mixers now have) then use those instead. You'll be able to connect directly then, without overloading and without buying any extra kit to fix a problem you've created yourself.




The lesson here is: you can't connect line level output (which is loud) to mic level input (which is quiet). It overloads.


Thanks a lot for the reply. I will try this out with going RCA out of channel 1 and 2 instead of using the masters and let you know how it works out. Or should take the RCA's out of the master out?
 
You can take RCAs out of the NS6....but don't connect them to the XLR (mic) inputs of the Mackie! They're too loud.

Look to see if the Mackie has any stereo input channels, which will more likely be line level. They're often on the right side, and will have two numbers above a single fader (so it might say 11/12 for example).
 
groovindj wrote :
You can take RCAs out of the NS6....but don't connect them to the XLR (mic) inputs of the Mackie! They're too loud.

Look to see if the Mackie has any stereo input channels, which will more likely be line level. They're often on the right side, and will have two numbers above a single fader (so it might say 11/12 for example).



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get the registry tool and change the zero decibel to 4650 or lower to setting that keeps the level down...
If your blowing the mid horns pull back on the mid-range...your files are whats over loading....if your files are mp3 i would use mp3gain and set them to 89db to prevent clipping...
http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php
 
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