dennusb
Hi,
Tidal is brining back stems and i was wondering when that will be re-enabled in VirtualDJ?
Tidal is brining back stems and i was wondering when that will be re-enabled in VirtualDJ?
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 7:24 am
groovindj
The statement Tidal released some time ago gives the date as April 10th.
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 8:06 am
the SOUND INSURGENT
I wouldn't give them any money as they are clearly using this as an excuse to rob djs!!
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 4:25 pm
groovindj
You consider less than a dollar per day for access to 100 million tracks to be robbery?
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 4:27 pm
the SOUND INSURGENT
Yes I do.
Its no secret that they have lost a ton of money, and the way they went about this was super shady!!
There's enough corporate greed, we don't need the little guy (i.e YOU) trying to defend them smh....
And this just goes to show you cant trust streaming, they can pull and do whatever they want whenever they want.
Its no secret that they have lost a ton of money, and the way they went about this was super shady!!
There's enough corporate greed, we don't need the little guy (i.e YOU) trying to defend them smh....
And this just goes to show you cant trust streaming, they can pull and do whatever they want whenever they want.
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 4:51 pm
groovindj
Super shady? Where are you getting this information?
My understanding of it is:
One or more of the companies/artists who supply Tidal were unhappy with stems being available to DJs, so asked Tidal to remove that capability, which they did. In response to customer feedback, Tidal have now negotiated a new deal with those suppliers to allow DJs to have stems again, plus offline storage.
Doesn't seem shady to me.
I don't know about you, but I'm old enough to remember what I had to pay for vinyl and CDs back when the only way was to buy it.......and I'm very grateful now to have access to way more music for a fraction of what it used to cost me every week.
My understanding of it is:
One or more of the companies/artists who supply Tidal were unhappy with stems being available to DJs, so asked Tidal to remove that capability, which they did. In response to customer feedback, Tidal have now negotiated a new deal with those suppliers to allow DJs to have stems again, plus offline storage.
Doesn't seem shady to me.
I don't know about you, but I'm old enough to remember what I had to pay for vinyl and CDs back when the only way was to buy it.......and I'm very grateful now to have access to way more music for a fraction of what it used to cost me every week.
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 5:18 pm
locoDog
We don't know what will be offered from the dj package, sure stems & cache, but how much of the library? that's yet to be seen.
Was the price hike shady? IMO not shady just the usual enshittification, start up offers a good service at a good price, once a proportion of the market has been captured then increase profit any way possible, even at the cost to the quality of the service.
Time will yet tell if it's still value for money, on paper it looks like it will be, but as a customer it doesn't feel good to be charged double what you were paying last month, even if it is still good deal.
Would a dj use the service more than a usual user? probably not, some usual users could stream all day every day, but is the service more valuable to dj's? Yes absolutely, so they charge accordingly.
Was the price hike shady? IMO not shady just the usual enshittification, start up offers a good service at a good price, once a proportion of the market has been captured then increase profit any way possible, even at the cost to the quality of the service.
Time will yet tell if it's still value for money, on paper it looks like it will be, but as a customer it doesn't feel good to be charged double what you were paying last month, even if it is still good deal.
Would a dj use the service more than a usual user? probably not, some usual users could stream all day every day, but is the service more valuable to dj's? Yes absolutely, so they charge accordingly.
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 5:45 pm
groovindj
Library restriction (if any) usually works the other way around - pay less, get less.
I know Amazon do that, but I think they're the only ones.
Quality is what usually takes a hit. Pay less, get lower bit rates.
I think it's a shame that today some people consider music to be almost worthless. I guess the likes of Spotify giving free access didn't help.
N.B. Beatport is $29.99 per month for top quality + offline storage.
Beatsource Pro+ $34.99 ditto
I know Amazon do that, but I think they're the only ones.
Quality is what usually takes a hit. Pay less, get lower bit rates.
I think it's a shame that today some people consider music to be almost worthless. I guess the likes of Spotify giving free access didn't help.
N.B. Beatport is $29.99 per month for top quality + offline storage.
Beatsource Pro+ $34.99 ditto
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 6:02 pm
kradcliffe
Personally I'm not a fan of any of these streaming services for many reasons.
We need the good old days back :)
We need the good old days back :)
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 6:15 pm
groovindj
Hehe, look at all those lovely low bit rates!
It's those kind of services which are to blame for "Nelson Mandela" effects like this:
It's those kind of services which are to blame for "Nelson Mandela" effects like this:
Posté Wed 27 Mar 24 @ 6:46 pm
