DJKice
guys check this out am i right or am i right....
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/41403/Hardware_Technical_Support/Virtual_DJ_needs_sound_FEATURES_.html
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/41403/Hardware_Technical_Support/Virtual_DJ_needs_sound_FEATURES_.html
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 8:27 am
acw_dj
Why you have to post this in every forum??? I repeat in all if you wish.
VDJ is a software program and sound good. For use TCVs you need also a sound card whit 2 Line inputs (like the Maya 44 USB). The first thing to do is BUY VDJ. The second; BUY a sound card compatible with VDJ. The Third; Buy TCVs.
When you buy VDJ and use a proper soundcard you will notice Virtual DJ sounds very good. I can do Backspin, scratch and is REAL, not half good, really good. But I have the FULL version I have a good soundcard and a good hardware too. If you don’t, don’t blame VDJ.
Buy VDJ and then complain.
VDJ is a software program and sound good. For use TCVs you need also a sound card whit 2 Line inputs (like the Maya 44 USB). The first thing to do is BUY VDJ. The second; BUY a sound card compatible with VDJ. The Third; Buy TCVs.
When you buy VDJ and use a proper soundcard you will notice Virtual DJ sounds very good. I can do Backspin, scratch and is REAL, not half good, really good. But I have the FULL version I have a good soundcard and a good hardware too. If you don’t, don’t blame VDJ.
Buy VDJ and then complain.
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 9:32 am
antileon
No, you are wrong. Works ok for me. Again, get a proper legit setup, then complain.
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 9:51 am
bagpuss
Well that's said that.
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 2:23 pm
DJKice
Check the main thread, I do have to post so I can get my concern out so people actually hear what I have to say and I think it's totally appropriate. as for your reply having a legit setup, hmm licence shouldnt matter, whether you have a trial or a full version if you define the definition for trial period it means you trial the software at limited functionality for a period of amount of days which makes it shareware now you can't tell me this would affect the actual quility of tcvs and things like that. I'd want to know what im buying before im buying it, Id just like to know what exactly am I buying a DJ prorgam or a VJ program ? It should be either one or the other not both.
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 2:25 pm
DJKice
Your pathetic trying to tell people what to buy will fix problems, how will TCV's fix software related issues or a Maya44. Though I have both is that going to improve the quility of the sound or the sound side of the program? Stop trying to knock of my valid argument by trying to say "FULL" "LEGIT" version, I am allowed to have the trial for those purposes to decide wether or not to purchase software so as long as thats out of the way stop trying to accuse use of "cracked" versions, you can't blame everything that goes wrong for using a "cracked version". Funny how when ever issues like this come up people start blaming cracked versions and they get banned, when they have perfectly valid issues and problems. If anyones to blame it's the developers for skipping the point. Meh I think ive said enough for this
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 2:31 pm
bagpuss
Tell me DJKice, what is your exact problem apart from the obvious?, Your talking about sound and having doubts in the Devs priorities?..
Sorry, but on these forums people aren't so open to people who aren't full license owners, It's kinda like a circle, everyone got this treatment before they got a license, It's kind of wrong, but on the other hand they are just concerned that too many people are using cracks, and that really doesn't help the softwares development, they want to support this product as much as possible, but occasionally they shoot themselves in the foot.., From what I've read of your posts I see no reason to be hostile towards you.
The moment It's determined that your using a cracked version is the moment your demo support/questions end, until then we can suspect, but If you don't give us anything to chew on we can't accuse you.
It is correct though, the best thing to do is buy the software prior to the Vinyls, but that's no problem..
About dev team, Dev team isn't a ten man team, remember this is a small company, and they have made very fast progress over a very short period of time, history has shown that they can provide the goods, I am only looking forward to the future, and trust me when I say that Audio is the priority, but Video was something that had to happen, and now it's pretty stable, so they will update video but It wont be at the expense of audio, moreover the Dev team listen to what is requested from their users, and everyone’s post I've read is crying out for audio features, they know this and I believe they are acting on it.
The audio at current is good, and good enough for most settings.., It just isn't perfect, and perfect is obviously what people want, and the Dev team have said that they are working on numerous different aspects of the sound engine and related.
I expect that the next updates should fix some bugs that cropped up since version 3, and I don't think It will be too long before people need no longer complain about audio (which is blown up a lot, Audio should be good), If your audio is actually bad, then that's not the fault of VDJ, and we can help you with any problem you may have..
Regards.
Sorry, but on these forums people aren't so open to people who aren't full license owners, It's kinda like a circle, everyone got this treatment before they got a license, It's kind of wrong, but on the other hand they are just concerned that too many people are using cracks, and that really doesn't help the softwares development, they want to support this product as much as possible, but occasionally they shoot themselves in the foot.., From what I've read of your posts I see no reason to be hostile towards you.
The moment It's determined that your using a cracked version is the moment your demo support/questions end, until then we can suspect, but If you don't give us anything to chew on we can't accuse you.
It is correct though, the best thing to do is buy the software prior to the Vinyls, but that's no problem..
About dev team, Dev team isn't a ten man team, remember this is a small company, and they have made very fast progress over a very short period of time, history has shown that they can provide the goods, I am only looking forward to the future, and trust me when I say that Audio is the priority, but Video was something that had to happen, and now it's pretty stable, so they will update video but It wont be at the expense of audio, moreover the Dev team listen to what is requested from their users, and everyone’s post I've read is crying out for audio features, they know this and I believe they are acting on it.
The audio at current is good, and good enough for most settings.., It just isn't perfect, and perfect is obviously what people want, and the Dev team have said that they are working on numerous different aspects of the sound engine and related.
I expect that the next updates should fix some bugs that cropped up since version 3, and I don't think It will be too long before people need no longer complain about audio (which is blown up a lot, Audio should be good), If your audio is actually bad, then that's not the fault of VDJ, and we can help you with any problem you may have..
Regards.
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 3:00 pm
DJKice
Thanks for your support and post, I am glad im getting some feedback. I'm not saying im having problems, im saying what should be done. Video is going to draw alot more time for development and keeping it stable, the more functionility the more doors for time they are going to open when the sound side like various features could be improved/ and or implemented into the current virtual dj. Also the video part should be offered as a plugin rather than be in the actual application or you should be able to disable it.
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 3:32 pm
mp3jrick
Hmmm...
To buy or not to buy.....that is the question.
To buy or not to buy.....that is the question.
Posté Sun 25 Sep 05 @ 6:55 pm
DJKice
I think to buy is the answer :)
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 8:40 am
mp3jrick
Welcome Kice, good to see you made the right decision.
And, that's how its supposed to work folks, you gotta be patient and let them see the light.
And, that's how its supposed to work folks, you gotta be patient and let them see the light.
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 11:50 am
erxon
Kinda reminds me of matrix...
"We cannot tell you what it is... You must see it for yourself. The decision is yours.." :)
"We cannot tell you what it is... You must see it for yourself. The decision is yours.." :)
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 12:02 pm
mp3jrick
So we're gonna see just how far the rabbit goes down that hole.......
I have to add that to my analogy folder.....lol
good un
good un
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 2:41 pm
lopez453
Welcome to fullusers DJKice
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 2:55 pm
bagpuss
Yea kice, glad to see you toke our honest advice, but don't get too excited.., theirs gonna be lots more wonderful updates in the future :).
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 3:13 pm
nickgoodman
Personally - IMO - I think the VDJ team are right to work on the video side. Alot of clubs/pubs are starting to use big plasma screens and projectors and video mixing is the way it is going, and VDJ is at the front of it, one of the clubs I work in has just spent 5K on two pioneer DVJs and also the video mixing is going down well, another club I take my laptop with VDJ and plug the video output in. Its great when playing something like Christinas DIRRTY or MVP rock ya body. Getting to see some half naked ppl on screen getting down really boosts the atmoshpere on the dancefloor. I also love the new transitions effects VDJ has implemented, it is a real alternative to two expensive pioneer DVJ's, plus video mixer, plus preview screens.
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 3:47 pm
bagpuss
nickgoodman: You've just expressed the exact reason why I have no interest in video mixing.., the naked people, I like decent music that sells through it's music, rather than commercial junk/gypsy music useing everything at it's disposal to get played everywhere, good example eric prydes - call on me.
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 3:52 pm
mp3jrick
Hold the phone......
Club environment is totally different with respect to content.
The content definately contributes to the chaos on the dance floor, it fuels it.
On the other hand, Bag, you are missing it.
I do more multi-age gigs than anything else.
I now have the ability to cue around content with VDJ.
This has been a MAJOR problem for me using discs in the past.
Some killer tracks couldn't be played in some cases.
Still can't play Baby Got Back though.........
It's about having the right library and the right tools.
I wish you lived closer, i'd prove it to you.
Video is the future guys, get on while the train is going slow.
Club environment is totally different with respect to content.
The content definately contributes to the chaos on the dance floor, it fuels it.
On the other hand, Bag, you are missing it.
I do more multi-age gigs than anything else.
I now have the ability to cue around content with VDJ.
This has been a MAJOR problem for me using discs in the past.
Some killer tracks couldn't be played in some cases.
Still can't play Baby Got Back though.........
It's about having the right library and the right tools.
I wish you lived closer, i'd prove it to you.
Video is the future guys, get on while the train is going slow.
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 3:59 pm
bagpuss
I'm on the phone Rick, but some guys yelling video at me! :)....
Don't get me wrong I'm not against video, I simply don't believe in it.., I think for you it's working, and working well, but then you aren't a club DJ, your gigs are idyllic as you say, your playing older and more 'innocent’ music/videos.
In a club, most of the songs video are full of nudity, and some even pornography qualifying material, I don't want to get involved in this..
If I was playing 80's all night then sure, but look at today’s modern/dance videos, their simply full of junk and not even interesting.
Plus, why look at video when you have your friends their, If your dancing It's nice to focus on the music not a screen, and if your with a girl then your looking into her eyes.
I agree that video is the next big thing, but sadly I don't feel it.., but then again I'm not into big screens, not impressive at all, rather a huge extravagance to show what?
Don't get me wrong I'm not against video, I simply don't believe in it.., I think for you it's working, and working well, but then you aren't a club DJ, your gigs are idyllic as you say, your playing older and more 'innocent’ music/videos.
In a club, most of the songs video are full of nudity, and some even pornography qualifying material, I don't want to get involved in this..
If I was playing 80's all night then sure, but look at today’s modern/dance videos, their simply full of junk and not even interesting.
Plus, why look at video when you have your friends their, If your dancing It's nice to focus on the music not a screen, and if your with a girl then your looking into her eyes.
I agree that video is the next big thing, but sadly I don't feel it.., but then again I'm not into big screens, not impressive at all, rather a huge extravagance to show what?
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 4:09 pm
nickgoodman
Did I open a can of worms.. ooops :)
I like the video. But the audio side of VDJ is good too IMO, easy to use, fantastic support, skins, good range of controllers...
Actually I don't just use the video, I do karaoke in local pubs as well. Now VDJ is the only program i know that lets me do all these things, ie) i only have one program open, I play audio tracks in the pub in between karaoke, sometimes video tracks, if not a video track then the visual effects are on, and i'm using the 'text' feature also.
So for me its great. Bagpuss - are you asking for a cut down version of VDJ without the video then. Or are you suggesting atomix split it and support two products? I personally don't think they want to have to duplicate there development/code on two systems....
I like the video. But the audio side of VDJ is good too IMO, easy to use, fantastic support, skins, good range of controllers...
Actually I don't just use the video, I do karaoke in local pubs as well. Now VDJ is the only program i know that lets me do all these things, ie) i only have one program open, I play audio tracks in the pub in between karaoke, sometimes video tracks, if not a video track then the visual effects are on, and i'm using the 'text' feature also.
So for me its great. Bagpuss - are you asking for a cut down version of VDJ without the video then. Or are you suggesting atomix split it and support two products? I personally don't think they want to have to duplicate there development/code on two systems....
Posté Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 4:20 pm
