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When I have a song playing, and I cue up the next track on a solid downbeat, and hit SYNC, and then hit PLAY on my Hercules, very often the new track "ramps up" to full speed, rather than starting immediately. I have my Performance Preset to FASTEST, Latency set to AUTO, SAFE mode and OVERCLOCK both checked.

On my Hercules, I have ASIO mode selected, and 882 buffer size. However, something strange.... everytime I open VDJ and then close it, my Hercules control panel resets itself to WDM mode.

Any idea on what might be causing this?
 
Posté Fri 09 Nov 07 @ 7:37 pm
Hi Eric,

Regarding your hercules control panel, I think it suppose to reset itself, mine does it. Everytime I open it I always have to click on the asio button.

Also the sound problems you are getting might be due to your aiso buffer on your herc settings being to low. Mine was at 882 and I was told by a teamer that was way to low. Why don't you try raising it up a couple of levels to about 2208 I think it is and try that. I did and my seems better. Your vdj performance settings seem ok but try it with the overclock unticked.

Hope this helps

Jimmy b

 
OK, well I jacked up the number under the Hercules sample size, and it does seem to be better, though not perfect. It seems like I almost always have to anticipate by hitting play BEFORE the downbeat in order for the VDJ sync to "catch" the downbeat on the live song. If I hit PLAY when I think it really should be starting, it misses the first beat, and syncs to the second beat by ramping up. Do most people beat-mixing have this same experience?

Also, is there a way to not have the Hercules reset to WDM each time? That sure is annoying...
 
what iis your systems specification?
 
This is basically a gaming laptop which I purchased last year from XTREMENOTEBOOKS.com.

Specs:

Pentium 4, 3Ghz
1GB RAM
ATI Mobililty Radeon X800, with 256MB total video RAM
Hercules MK 2, with Hardware acceleration set to FULL



 
Oh, I guess their brand name is PROSTAR...
 
I just read on an older post that 2007_CMK2_2 Hercules drivers are for VISTA - NOT XP. Is this true? I have XP, and I think I am using these newer drivers...
 
No.. it ain't true.. the 2007 "Does Werk" on XP .. I using them. but the 2006 is far more stable..
 
So by more stable, do you mean a cleaner, more predictable PLAY start in VDJ? Or do you mean more stable from a windows point of view?
 
More stable in means that the driver function won't fail on ya when u operate the console.. example the headphone selection the responsive the button react etc.. Sometimes the 2007 ones u have to reinstalled, fully uninstalled the old ones then it will werk good if not there sure be something not right when u are using ur herc:)
 
I do get very unpredictable button action. On my Hercules "ABOUT" screen, it says:

Package: 2.CMK2.2007
Firmware v1.3.13.6
Driver 3.4.0.0
DJ APl v2.0.8.2
CPL v1.4.3.2

I will try downgrading the driver to the 2006 ones. Does anybody know... will upgrading the firmware prevent having to reset to ASIO every time I start VDJ?
 
You could as 2006 is more stable but try uninstalled fully the driver.. (don't do system restore as u will have the msg file error).. then restart PC, then installed the 2007 . then restart then try to use..

my mk2 always reset to wdm too n have to choose asio for next session:).. I think they are like that. The sample rate/sample size n the asio buffer size will not change .. they stay the way they are even after vdj close . it only u need to select to asio n select the external mixer use only when u reopen:)
 
The MK2 will always reset once the asio is not being used.
 
Eric, what is the latency setting in vdj set to? it also sounds to me the beatlock is on, which ive found tends to do that strange thing of ramping up the mix. i find the main thing with sound cards is find the lowest latency setting possible with the jittery digital output sound. ive was using an emu1616 which was stable all the time on 1ms latency... it rocked. now back to my m-audio piece of crap (it does the job though) because my new laptop doesnt use cardbus (the newer expresscard is not backwards-compatible)
 
My VDJ latency is set to AUTO. In my Hercules, I set it ASIO mode, with a sample size of 2205. Also, I uninstalled and RE-installed the 2007 MK2 drivers. I am still getting ramping and jittery effect when hitting PLAY. However, it does seem to be mainly when beat sync is ON. OVERCLOCK and SAFE mode don't seem to change things.

Is this a common problem? Do users of the 2006 drivers experience this?
 
I didn't see the answer in the beginning of the thread so I may have missed something but why are you using asio anyway. Do you have another form of controller hooked into the system ( TT's / TCCD or something ).. if not, don't connect the asio mode and leave it as is. The MK2 latency set around the 1782 ( whatever the number is ), for laptops ( overclock checked ), auto latency.

 
i dont recommend to use auto for the latency setting. you should experiment by trial and error what latency your hardware is capable of. keep in mind that an external sound card can have different latency settings depending on the laptop it's connected to. you want to have the lowest latency possible as the higher that setting is, the longer it takes for vdj to react to your keypresses.
 
If I disable the ASIO mode in my Hercules, and use WDM, won't that be a much slower response? I thought we want the low latency that is only possible with ASIO drivers???
 
u "only" need asio for timecoding, u still can use wdm n there no need for asio if u not using any external hardware for timecode.
 
OK thanks. I'm out of town right now, but I will see how responsive the WDM driver is next week.
 
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