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Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH has released a 64-bit–capable version of its Audio Stream Input/Output (ASIO) technology. The ASIO 2.2 SDK provides software engineers with a complete set of tools for creating ASIO-ready host applications and drivers for 64-bit versions of Microsoft's Windows operating system.

"ASIO 2.2 and its ASIO 2/64 component will form the backbone of a new generation of 64-bit host applications and audio devices for Windows," says Markus Stehlik, Steinberg's director of engineering. "The new version of this open standard will also ensure both 32-bit and 64-bit driver versions are available to customers of audio software and hardware."

ASIO supports variable bit depths and sample rates, multichannel operation and synchronization. It is designed to provide users with low latency, high performance, easy setup and stable audio recording within VST. The entire system becomes controllable and offers complete and immediate access to the audio system's capabilities.

The SDK is available for download at www.steinberg.net. here is a next link http://www.steinberg.net./index.php?id=343&L=1&tx_indexedsearch[sword]

 

I guess you got your wish Phil, with 5.0.7...
 

lol on what cstoll? and what wish did i get Supacon?
 

A 64-bit sound engine would be really cool: low digital distortion with the right optimizations, super-fast computations compared to floating point values, and superb dynamic range.
 

VDJ sounds good. But quality of Master Tempo (Key Lock) is very very bad. I can hear artifacts in all techno/house mixes uploaded by VDJ users and on VDJ radio. How come it's not the same quality as say OTS DJ or Traktor? Let alone Pioneer CDJ-1000.
 

The quality of the master tempo is rather dependent on your settings though.... If you're not not running it in advanced mode I grant ya it sounds pretty pants, but set up correctly on a suitably whizzy computer it sounds fine to me....

(Unfortunately my computer ain't quite whizzy enough - I can only run it on one deck at a time...) ;-)
 

djfilosoff wrote :
VDJ sounds good. But quality of Master Tempo (Key Lock) is very very bad. I can hear artifacts in all techno/house mixes uploaded by VDJ users and on VDJ radio. How come it's not the same quality as say OTS DJ or Traktor? Let alone Pioneer CDJ-1000.

Key lock on VDJ Radio doesnt seen to work that well for some reason it seems to effect the streaming (cstoll maybe able to clarify) but i have had no success with the key lock or master tempo when broadcasting on VDJ Radio.
Having said that when i go and use VDJ in my club the master tempo & key lock work just as good as my CDJ 1000 MKIII do.


Kaoz
 

djsherz wrote :
The quality of the master tempo is rather dependent on your settings though.... If you're not not running it in advanced mode I grant ya it sounds pretty pants, but set up correctly on a suitably whizzy computer it sounds fine to me....

(Unfortunately my computer ain't quite whizzy enough - I can only run it on one deck at a time...) ;-)

Could someone recommend some settings? Assuming that one has a whizzy computer!
 

use 320kpbs files and set filter taps to a higher number for a decent master tempo change
 

the sound quality is pretty good IMO. I can set the latency in my maya44 to the lowest & have a pop free sound.

When I used the internal mixer, the main things I didn't like were that it was hard to setup your gains properly manually & there was no real good overall master output LEDs that gave you an insight to how loud your mix was. I actually thought the eqs were not bad at all.

vdj is win:)
 

Master Tempo may sound pretty good in the club because of crowd noise but when you listen to it at home in headphones you can hear all the details. I tried all possible settings including recommended Anvanced Master Tempo with Complexity=3 and Spatialization=1 and sound card Safe Mode unchecked using Numark Virtual Vinyl sound card and all I hear is uneven beats with missing milliseconds of sound. I'm not using timecoded CD or vinyl. I'm trying to make decent demo mixes and I can't. You can listen to my mix http://www.djfilosoff.com/DJ_Fil_Osoff_-_House_promo_mix_2008.mp3
On each song transition the beats just falling apart and sound disturbing. I know that if you play different genres of music like breaks or rock it's not very noticeable but I think there are a lot of VDJ users who play house, trance will agree with me. I hate to mention other programs 'cause I like VDJ a lot but this one undeveloped to professional quality standards feature keeps a lot of DJ's from using the program. M-Audio in their Torq software apparently solved this problem using "zPlane Elastique time stretching" technology and demonstrated very good performance of Master Tempo. Can developers of VDJ make similar improvements in next version? I'm ready to pay for such an update. I'm not expecting free updates. I just need professional results.
 

I don't use the master tempo, but I agree that it sounds like ass. Someone who knows better can tell you how to make it sound a little better by changing the confiuration in vdjs settings.
 

I'm sorry to report that Serato's keylock (mastertempo) sounds excellent. Even better than CDJ-1000. Is there gonna be an improvement of existing sound quality in VDJ?
 

Totaly right folks thats how it is
If it sounds like Serato's i would also pay for!!!!!!!"IF THIS IS THE PROBLEM"
We not expecting free updates. We just need professional results
 

i dont think i have ever read so much whining about stuff.. are you guys expecting the software to do EVERYTHING on its own?? master tempo?? its called beat matching, track selection harmonics.. flow.. if you are relying on key changes and master tempos to make every track mixable then you realy aren't seeing the whole point of being a "dj".. i have been using VDJ for give or take 4-5 yrs now and its hands down the easiest, user friendliest and customer pleasing software there is for the mere 350 bucks you have to spend.. 99% of the issues you all are having is not in the software, its in the set up and configuration of your computers and the fact that most of you are expecting the software to take the "work" and "talent" out of the art of mixing music.. my first set up was a off the shelf hp desktop with a whopping gig of ram and a VIA Envy 24 soundcard (initially intended for watching dvd's and surround sound type stuff) it has the option 2+2 stereo so i figured it'll work..
i used this set up for 2-3 yrs and it worked great after i went through the forum and followed some set up tips on irq adresses, codecs and minor memory settings (all with in any computer owners capability) same with my lap top that i play in the clubs with.. an off the shelf HP with a blaster 24 external soundcard, this 5 yr old laptop will play NONSTOP for 12-15 hrs with out a glitch (unless you try to use the video stuff)
as for my settings that i use are pretty much the "default" settings in VDJ still using the via 24 soundcard set to 2+2 stereo (non asio configured) at 48khz (standard) i use a numark dxm06 external mixer (regular rca to mini plug from mixer to sound card on ALL channels in and out) so again nothing spectacular there.. i use a sony home theatre amp and speakers for play at home with the regular 5.1 speakers that come with it (turn off simulated surround and the center channel ofcourse) (this set up works with both my lap top with external sound card and my desk top) the only "tweak" in both computers is the frauhaufer mp3 codec is put in slot nr 1 under the priorety settings for the codec (default is 13 or some stupid crap) these settings play excelent in the club, broadcast over the server just fine AND it records on the fly with no glitches what so ever.. listen for yourself at djmix.net/djcapitalt you can pick ANYONE OF THE POSTED MIXES.. they are all studio quality recorded live using VDJ.. all my recordings are in 128 or 192 (depending on if it was for broadcast or cd) and i use only mp3 @128 to 320..

and i apologize if any or all of this sounds harsh or mean, this is not the intended outcome.. i am just sticking up for the people who devote their time and skills to making this what it is.. any equivalent software is 4X as much money and requires a degree in music to work it.. plus a room full of extra equipment.. VDJ has hit the nail on the head, it is user friendly, versetile and they go above and beyond with their mostly volunteer tech support!!.. so quit your bi*%in and learn how to use your computer or ask nicely and i'm sure they will gladly help and i assure you that you will LOVE the software Thomas.. aka djCapital T d-.-b (proffessional user)
 

OK. I have been complaining about keylock quality in VDJ but today I was able to get a decent sound. I know some of you already had this working but a lot of people still can't figure it out. As I found out Advanced Master Tempo option doesn't work without Scratch option being in Enhanced Mode. So earlier I thought Advanced Master Tempo sounded bad but it was not really working because my Scratch option was in Simple Algorithm. Also on my laptop it works only in Vista and I'm using Numark VV sound card. In windows xp it has a lot of problems. My settings are: Scratch - Enhanced Algorithm, Filter Size 11, Filter Smooth not checked, Master Tempo - Advanced, Complexity 3, Spatialization 1.
Sounds pretty good, no defective beats (like BOOM-BOOM-OOM-BOOM) anymore. I take my words back and want to thank creators of this great program. Now I can only complain that it takes too much time to find the best settings for your computer :-)
 



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