Seasons greetings to all. For christmas i gave myself a 1 TB western digital hard drive that has been nothing but problems for due to its spin down issue. Just wondering what everyone else is using in that size besides the WD .
Thanks, Alex
Thanks, Alex
Posté Sat 29 Dec 07 @ 12:22 pm
I got a dumb question, what do you mean by spin down issue?
Posté Sat 29 Dec 07 @ 1:00 pm
I got a Lacie 1 TB drive, that works as a champ
And a WD 500gig drive thats a bit of pain, I'd say too... It goes to "sleep" at intervals, and has a "power management" thing.
Havent bothered looked into it yet, but bet one can turn that off, or just reformat the drive
And a WD 500gig drive thats a bit of pain, I'd say too... It goes to "sleep" at intervals, and has a "power management" thing.
Havent bothered looked into it yet, but bet one can turn that off, or just reformat the drive
Posté Sat 29 Dec 07 @ 1:12 pm
Had the same thing going on with my WD 500Gig pro try this spindown tool http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp?cxml=n&pid=21&swid=17
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
Posté Sat 29 Dec 07 @ 1:18 pm
wow thanx ;) might use that WD drive more after all... been a bit annoying that drive, so kinda put it to "sleep" lol
Posté Sat 29 Dec 07 @ 1:21 pm
I'm also using a LaCie 1TB...can't really say anything negative about it, it works perfectly every time! If I were to point out one thing it'll be the physical size of the drive, which may be a problem
for some users(not me)
for some users(not me)
Posté Sun 30 Dec 07 @ 12:06 am
Thanks for the link, i'll give it a try.
By spindown issue im referring to the western digital power save mode that it enters into after 10 minutes of inactivity, it pretty much shuts the drive down.
By spindown issue im referring to the western digital power save mode that it enters into after 10 minutes of inactivity, it pretty much shuts the drive down.
Posté Sun 30 Dec 07 @ 12:09 am
i dont remember where, but there is an option in windows to disable that. i think go in the device manager and goto the properties of either the controller or the hard drive itself when its connected.
you can also try changing the power policy so that your machine is 'always on'
you can also try changing the power policy so that your machine is 'always on'
Posté Sun 30 Dec 07 @ 4:43 am
The problem is the WD harddisk. WD has the worst harddisks in statistic. Never buy them, i was a system administator trust me.
Buy harddisks from LaChie or Seagate they make the best harddisks in statistic (and these live long). Seagate gave you a 5 year garantie no ohter harddisk manufractur do this (and most of the server of big company have Seagate).
Hope i help you for the future.
Buy harddisks from LaChie or Seagate they make the best harddisks in statistic (and these live long). Seagate gave you a 5 year garantie no ohter harddisk manufractur do this (and most of the server of big company have Seagate).
Hope i help you for the future.
Posté Sun 30 Dec 07 @ 5:53 am
I have a 160 GB western digital, and it works magnicant.
Posté Sun 30 Dec 07 @ 11:18 am
i think Paz may be right ...... i have the 500 gb and i didn't know what the spindown issue was 'til i read this ......my power management settings are all never , so it's always on ........
Posté Sun 30 Dec 07 @ 12:03 pm
The spin down issue is actually a feature built into the drive itself by WD for which they don't give the option to turn it off. The spin down tool is actually to make the drive spin down so it doesn't fix my problem. I also tried a program another dj made that is supposed to check the hard drive at different time intervals which i can control but it's not working for me.
So far Lacie seems to be getting the best reviews so lacie it is. I guess i have a nice WD as a back up.
Thanks for all the help and please if anyone knows of another brand of HD that u feel would be a better buy please chime in. I still have a few days before i order the HD.
Thanks, Alex.
So far Lacie seems to be getting the best reviews so lacie it is. I guess i have a nice WD as a back up.
Thanks for all the help and please if anyone knows of another brand of HD that u feel would be a better buy please chime in. I still have a few days before i order the HD.
Thanks, Alex.
Posté Sun 30 Dec 07 @ 12:13 pm
I have been thru this issue and with help from the "Mobile Beat" forum gang ,
I downloaded a little bitty awsome "drive spin program" that Softjock Inc. (Rick ?)wrote
Is very nice ,small ,simple prog . that you run in background and is adjustable for drive letter and time settings
This was and is an Awesome tool ..I am not good enough with code writing to do this ,but many of the folks
here are that good . Or try mobilebeat.com ,forum to find
I think this will help and should cause no harm to try
Hope this helps
Best to You
Scott
I downloaded a little bitty awsome "drive spin program" that Softjock Inc. (Rick ?)wrote
Is very nice ,small ,simple prog . that you run in background and is adjustable for drive letter and time settings
This was and is an Awesome tool ..I am not good enough with code writing to do this ,but many of the folks
here are that good . Or try mobilebeat.com ,forum to find
I think this will help and should cause no harm to try
Hope this helps
Best to You
Scott
Posté Sun 06 Jan 08 @ 10:00 pm
I have been using WD RE2's in my system for 2 1/2 years without any issues whatsoever. I currently run 8 hard drives in a RAID 0 format. If you are not using enterprise edition drives this could be part of your problem. Hard drives that are designed for consumer usage function differently than enterprise edition drives. Just for the record, I am a global system admin and have been for 5 years.
Posté Mon 07 Jan 08 @ 12:34 am
wow, 8 drives in raid 0, thats quite something... but doesnt that mean that you have 8 times more failure rate if one drive goes down? with that many drives, why not 0+1? Just curious, always wanting to learn others techniques
Posté Mon 07 Jan 08 @ 3:50 am
I carry backup hard drives loaded in a swapable bay. I am currently building a new rack system that will contain everything in one package. Currently, if one of the RAID's fail, I have to swap out the drive bay. The new system will have redunant backups using RAID 0. Using a RAID 0 allows for video remixing without speed sacrifice of other RAID systems. Since all I use are wav and vob files, the speed allows a standard promo only video to load in less than 5 secs and a wav file in approx a second or two. The failure rate is less than that of the DJ using laptops. They generally do not have the ability to support an internal RAID and the enterprise drives are designed for the harsh environment that DJ's work in. As I stated earlier, I have not had a failure with my current system and I have not had a WD drive fail.
Posté Thu 10 Jan 08 @ 12:08 am
thats cool and all but raid 0 is striping. i too have raid 0, but have a raid 1 NAS i just bought to store my sources. im just a bit paranoid that not only 1 but two drives are in use to store my business and not to mention it gets moved around all the time. you can easily bump your laptop too hard and had a sector get hit by the head. with multiple drives, you multiply that chance. so only reason i ask is that so many drives surely is killer performance, but statistically, one day you will use 8x time chances to have a problem.
anyhow, is it possible to have redundant raid 0 while maintaining the speed? does raid 0+1 remove the benefit of the speed because of the mirrored dual-write?
anyhow, is it possible to have redundant raid 0 while maintaining the speed? does raid 0+1 remove the benefit of the speed because of the mirrored dual-write?
Posté Thu 10 Jan 08 @ 12:14 am
Paz75 wrote :
anyhow, is it possible to have redundant raid 0 while maintaining the speed? does raid 0+1 remove the benefit of the speed because of the mirrored dual-write?
anyhow, is it possible to have redundant raid 0 while maintaining the speed? does raid 0+1 remove the benefit of the speed because of the mirrored dual-write?
In theory.... RAID 0+1 will give you increased read performance as you can pull data from two separate hard drives, thus lowering the total time needed to access a piece of data. However write performance is degregaded since you have to write the entire data to two separate locations.
But of course this is all in theory... I never really noticed a big difference in speed when running RAID (for better or worse).
Posté Thu 10 Jan 08 @ 2:43 pm
RAID 0?! No, no, no, no, no!
It's cheap, and it's fast, but a DJs computer is subjected to poor conditions, and mobile DJs move their computers around and are bumping them and exposing them to harsh drunks and stuff all the time. I've seen mobile DJs who need new drives, like bimonthly. If one RAID 0 drive fails, you're SOL.
If you use a RAID 0 to store anything important, you'd better have it backed up somewhere!
It's cheap, and it's fast, but a DJs computer is subjected to poor conditions, and mobile DJs move their computers around and are bumping them and exposing them to harsh drunks and stuff all the time. I've seen mobile DJs who need new drives, like bimonthly. If one RAID 0 drive fails, you're SOL.
If you use a RAID 0 to store anything important, you'd better have it backed up somewhere!
Posté Thu 10 Jan 08 @ 3:13 pm
If you were paying attention, I carry a backup dive bay with me. Secondly, I do not use a laptop. My system is basically a server that has been redesigned for DJ use and the drives are enterprise HD's not consumer drives. No failures ever. My new system will house the redundant RAID 0 backups right in the server case, no need to swap out the drive bays. The new system should be completed by the end of March.
Posté Thu 10 Jan 08 @ 11:30 pm