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is anyone interested in forming a group to create some standards in vdj use - ie find a pc and laptop that runs flawless and use standards to replicate every minute detail of hardware, vdj and OS - it would be better in the long run, we could set up web site for downloads etc -
 
Posté Fri 11 Jan 08 @ 8:57 am
Dave, good idea.

I don't know why VirtaulDJ and the people behind it, haven't started looking into the development of controllers and laptops built for the software like how PCDJ have. I think they have the knowledge from all the teamers, all good in there own subjects, and it would really help the company grow.

Jimmy b

 
 
So why don't they get a PC company to produce some PC's/ shuttle/Laptop's on the sort of spec that the dev team use to test now. And retailer them on the site, I do strongly believe it will help the company.

Also get Numark or another leading DJ brand to develop a few dedicated controllers for the software.

Then I think VirtualDJ would be really awesome.

Jimmy b

 
jimmy b wrote :

Also get Numark or another leading DJ brand to develop a few dedicated controllers for the software.

Jimmy b



The DMC2 and Total Control are already out and Dedicated to VDJ & Numark Cue

What are you looking for specifically? - an all in one like a Hercules?

I can relate to the Compy thing - Absolutly would be a bonus.
 
DJ Marcel_1 wrote :


The DMC2 and Total Control are already out and Dedicated to VDJ & Numark Cue

What are you looking for specifically? - an all in one like a Hercules?

I can relate to the Compy thing - Absolutly would be a bonus.


Yeah something along those lines, Marcel,

but a completely new controllers with built in soundcards, something that looks the part and more professional.

Jimmy b
 
yeah, a brand new controller ( all in one ) like the mk2 would be nice. Personally I´d like the mk2 to be a bit bigger, and with better finish, it´s just all plastics at the moment, and firewire400/800 ports would also be nice. bigger jogs, and quicker response,better buttons.. there´s so much that can be improved on the mk2, although it´s a great all in one controller as it is though, but these are some of my opinions that I´d like to see on future controllers from herc
 

Yeah I second that

Jimmy b

 
VDJ has dedicated Controllers out fro it already (Numark Stuff)

I would put forward that It's the Computers more than the Controllers.

The Controllers are ass close to Identical as manufacturing allows. The Computers are the Wild Card. - Everyone has a different one.
 
Marcel, I totally agree with that.

But what we could do is to try to create some kinde of standards ( eg what kind of chip,cpu, rpm on harddrive and other things ) or recomendations. Basicly I can tell you this. I´ve been running VDJ on my acer aspire 1694 ( 1gb ram, 2 GhZ dothan cpu ( centrino ) samsung hdd(80 gb @ 5400 rpm ) and dedicated radeon x700 graphics with 128 mb dedicated ram. It worked flawlessly until my ide controller decided to commit hirikiri...

as for cpus..I´ve noticed that amd cpus ( both mobile athlon & desktop( both singel and dual core ) are handling much better than intels, although it´s not noticable..( could be just me that´s noticed that )


So basicly my opinion is just to create some kind of recomendations, and what things to look out for. Could help people out a lot I guess
 
I can only speak from personal experience; But this setup has been completely reliable since I assembled it.

ASUS M2NPV-VM
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX13050(ME).aspx
AMD Athlon Dual Core processor
2GB DDR2 800mhz RAM
Western Digital 80GB IDE hard drive for O/S (vista home premium)
Western Digital 300GB IDE hard Drive for music/videos
Numark DMC2 controller

I've run this setup for up to 10 hours at a time doing just about every function VDJ has to offer (except for timecodes)

I swear by it not at it

It has dual video out Directly from the Mother board.5.1 audio Card (yes I use the onboard sound)

I would put it in the mid range quality wise, comparable with soundblaster and hercules MK2. Not for studio use - but then again it's not used in the studio.

It goes into a 2U rackmounted case slightly modified to fit into a SKB DJ Capsule case. (I moved the rack ears)

Pics are in my blog. - Both of the Video truss, and a shot of the Console Assy.
 
excellent info DJ Marcel......you may be onto something here.......video card on the motherboard.sound on the motherboard. questions....
a) is it a tru video card with dedicated video memory, how much ?
b) what version vdj do ou run
c) what did you remove from vista / tweaks etc /
d) are there any mini skips when automixing from VDJ......
d1) when you double click to force the next video to load in middle of the current video ?
d2) when the next video loads after end of last one or forced, does the incoming video skip a beat at the end of the transition ?

I noticed a lot of issues on the forum from usb audio and audio cards in general. I too use on board audio BUt - I noticed your motherboard
Audio
- ADI AD1986A High Difinition Audio 5.1channel CODEC
- Support Jack-Sensing and S/PDIF out interface

does that mean it has that orange colored rca looking digital spidf output ?. I just bought a EMU 0404 usb BUT it runs stand alone from spdif so you get a better quality dound with NO drivers or software to mees with the PC or VDJ

If you have figured out a motherboard that runs VDJ then I think you have got the right idea - less is more - in particular with respect to add on items like video and audio cards
 
davefromlondon wrote :
excellent info DJ Marcel......you may be onto something here.......video card on the motherboard.sound on the motherboard. questions....
a) is it a tru video card with dedicated video memory, how much ?
b) what version vdj do ou run
c) what did you remove from vista / tweaks etc /
d) are there any mini skips when automixing from VDJ......
d1) when you double click to force the next video to load in middle of the current video ?
d2) when the next video loads after end of last one or forced, does the incoming video skip a beat at the end of the transition ?

I noticed a lot of issues on the forum from usb audio and audio cards in general. I too use on board audio BUt - I noticed your motherboard
Audio
- ADI AD1986A High Difinition Audio 5.1channel CODEC
- Support Jack-Sensing and S/PDIF out interface

does that mean it has that orange colored rca looking digital spidf output ?. I just bought a EMU 0404 usb BUT it runs stand alone from spdif so you get a better quality dound with NO drivers or software to mees with the PC or VDJ

If you have figured out a motherboard that runs VDJ then I think you have got the right idea - less is more - in particular with respect to add on items like video and audio cards


A) It does share memory - 256MB dedicated (assigned in bios) and 256mb shared - 512mb total.

B) v5.0r6 on my gig machine

C) removed from VISTA - nothing. Disabled Defender, sidebar, users (only have admin as the user)

D) Not that I've ever heard. I have all automated fuctions turned off and use Automix in fade in/out mode (skip intro) Play one song, fade into another. I only use it for dinner hour, and cocktail hour background music. (or potty breaks)

D1) I've only ever done that once when forcing a video. And it did the same transition that I had set up. (fade) It performed the fade in/out and the video played
D2) Never noticed anything - But gerneally don't use videos on automix - I'm usually controlling everything when playing videos.

Audio - No it does not have a RCA type jack - what it does is turn the MIC IN jack into a line out digitally and runs the s/pdif signal through that jack - 1/8 inch (4mm for you in UK)

It's not the most expesive stuff out there - or even supposed to be the best stuff - But DAMN for some reason - It works.
 
so to use the sp/dif output you need a mic jack to rca connector into the DCA box ?
 
No.

The whole point of an operating system in general, and a hardware abstraction layer specifically, is to allow software to be run as expected on a variety of hardware configurations. If it runs poorly, then the VDJ marketing team has a problem with the listed minimum system requirements. There is no need to make a list of _working_ hardware, as that list will certainly be shorter than a list of hardware that does *not* work with VDJ.
 
Run the same mobe here as well
I run a higher Dual Core chip than Marcel (I believe)
YOU HAVE TO USE DVI out for MAIN MONITOR and SVIDEO for TV out
It will not allow you to convert the DVI to VGA so thats why I am running an ATI X1950 Pro video card.
Dave I do get the same little vid glitch on videos like we talked about before, but I am gonna try to convert some of my MPEG2 down to MPEG1 and see if that makes a difference. For a cheap MOBO this thing rocks.
I too am running Vista.
Use the MK2 for Sound and also an Evolution X-Session for midi control.
 
Thanks Discobrian.......from the mobo spec [VGA
- Integrated GeForce 6 GPU
- High Definition Video Processing with max. resolutions to 1920 x 1440 (@ 75Hz)
- Dual VGA output support: DVI-D and RGB
Note: DVI-D can not be converted to output RGB signal to CRT.
- TV-out support: SDTV & HDTV (bundles HDTV/AV/S output module)
Note: RGB and TV-Out can not be used simultaneously.]

so unlike a regular PCIe Video card that has 2 x DVI slots ( I have an adapter to make them 2 x VGA ) where I run vga #1 to my VDJ Monitor and vga #2 to my video projector.......I cant do this with this mobo ? hmmm.....I dont like Svideo althouhg its not terrible - I was forced to use svideo at a lub recently and was surprised at the good quality, still, i prefer to stick with vga for monitor and video out.

are there other motherboards with 256mb or bigger video card built in with 2 x dvi vga out ?
 
davefromlondon wrote :
Thanks Discobrian.......from the mobo spec [VGA
- Integrated GeForce 6 GPU
- High Definition Video Processing with max. resolutions to 1920 x 1440 (@ 75Hz)
- Dual VGA output support: DVI-D and RGB
Note: DVI-D can not be converted to output RGB signal to CRT.
- TV-out support: SDTV & HDTV (bundles HDTV/AV/S output module)
Note: RGB and TV-Out can not be used simultaneously.]

so unlike a regular PCIe Video card that has 2 x DVI slots ( I have an adapter to make them 2 x VGA ) where I run vga #1 to my VDJ Monitor and vga #2 to my video projector.......I cant do this with this mobo ? hmmm.....I dont like Svideo althouhg its not terrible - I was forced to use svideo at a lub recently and was surprised at the good quality, still, i prefer to stick with vga for monitor and video out.

are there other motherboards with 256mb or bigger video card built in with 2 x dvi vga out ?


I just hook a DVI-D monitor for my display and run VGA out to the LCD tv's or Projector.

Running a Svideo feed with a vga port avail seemed unnessesary.
 
DJ Macel....DiscoBrian wrote above [Run the same mobe here as well
I run a higher Dual Core chip than Marcel (I believe)
YOU HAVE TO USE DVI out for MAIN MONITOR and SVIDEO for TV out
It will not allow you to convert the DVI to VGA so thats why I am running an ATI X1950 Pro video card. ]

you are saying you can run a regular monitor AND 2nd VGA out ?
 
I hook a DVI-D monitor and use it for my main monitor (mine)

The VGA/rgb video out is my second monitor (well monitors as you can see in my blog pics.)

Here's where it gets confusing for this MOBO

The DVI is ONLY DVI-D CAN NOT be Converted.

but

When using the DVI as your main monitor you have a choice of using the VGA out as your tv out OR hooking up the s-vid module that comes with the board.

So - I use the DVI-D out as my computer monitor.

and

The VGA out for my second display.

It's a bit confusing and it took some playing around when I first got this board.
 
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